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Dear MyGolfSpy Readers:

This would normally be the time when I’d tell you all about Callaway’s new XR Driver.

I’m not writing that story today. Instead, I’m going to break a pseudo-promise I made to Harry Arnett, Callaway’s Senior VP of Marketing.

A few months back, I told Harry that product or no product in-hand, company-supplied info or not (we can get the details from other sources), I was never not going to cover a major Callaway release.

As it turns out I’m not going to have much more to say about the XR driver.

Instead, I’m using this time and space to pull back the curtain to reveal the true story of what’s really going on between MyGolfSpy and Callaway. I’m going to be as honest and transparent as I possibly can, because I’m sick of tired of the speculation and accusations from people who have absolutely no idea what’s actually going on.

It’s time to put it all out there.

A Patent Dispute

For those relatively new to MyGolfSpy, I should probably tell you that the owner of MyGolfSpy got his start in the industry as an independent club designer. Some of you have probably played one of his creations.

Very long story short, he believes that a key Callaway technology, one that has generated millions in revenue for the company, leveraged one of his original designs. He believes he should be fairly compensated for an idea he contends Callaway used to help re-launch its brand in 2014.

I personally have no way of knowing if that’s true (I wasn’t in the room), but nobody at Callaway denies those original meetings took place. Nobody denies his designs were shown to Callaway engineers. There’s also an email trail that suggests Callaway representatives liked what they saw.

No reasonable person could deny the obvious similarities between his design and what Callaway eventually brought to market.

I’m not going to get into the specifics of the design – and I’m sure as hell not going to weigh-in on whether the dispute has any merit. There are chasms between what is right and what is legal. Sometimes similar is legally the same, sometimes not. The ultimate resolution is a matter for lawyers and judges.

As a matter of absolute fact, I can tell you that Callaway thought enough of the claim to host a meeting with my boss at last year’s PGA Show.

We’ll come back to this in a minute, but it’s important to point out that the timing of most of this roughly coincides with last year’s driver test.

2014’s Most Wanted Driver Test

There are some who believe the origins of the ongoing issues between our companies lie with lingering bitterness over the results of last year’s driver test where Callaway’s NEW (at the time) Big Bertha finished in the statistical middle (based on standard deviations of total performance). Because we rank by the numbers, it was listed near the bottom.

Clearly Callaway was disappointed by the result, and Harry Arnett’s response on Social Media reflects that. Despite celebrating XHot’s 1st place finish the year before, the company’s representatives didn’t hesitate to belittle our test.

There’s an obvious hypocrisy there which we didn’t hesitate to point out.

One can make a perfectly fair argument that six testers isn’t the ideal sample size, but at the time, nobody was offering a better alternative, and my viewpoint is that Callaway’s initial reaction suggested it was sandbagged. It certainly gave some the impression that they didn’t know what they were getting into when they agreed to participate. That certainly wasn’t the case. The details of our test are explicitly laid out in the invitation.

There are countless club tests conducted annually. None of them are perfect (there’s no such thing). We know the flaws with everybody’s tests, and Callaway does too. For whatever reason (and the reason is obvious enough), ours was the one the company’s representatives chose to go after publicly.

I will absolutely concede that I was less than thrilled by the company’s willingness to incite (in fairness, I believe this was inadvertent) its loyalists to troll us on Twitter, and complete unwillingness to straighten out the factual inaccuracies being tossed around by those same fans.

We fought back. Just as Callaway did, we defended our brand, and things escalated quickly.

As I said, I was angered – and I’ve subsequently let my Callaway contacts know that, but I’m also not a guy who holds a grudge (ask around), nor do I ever let business disputes become personal (again, ask around).

We moved on with our fairway wood test, and had absolutely zero reservations about naming Callaway’s Big Bertha Fairway Wood the winner.

Back to the Patent Dispute

As an unfortunate timing coincidence, not far removed from our driver test, the patent dispute reached a boiling point. Those of you keeping up on Twitter witnessed a flame war for the ages, and what was put out publicly was tame compared to what was exchanged via email. If you missed the back and forth, sufficed to say it was ugly.

I’m not going to sugarcoat anything. My boss, he has no filter (and that’s from a guy most would say lacks a filter himself). He says exactly what’s on his mind..sometimes all of it. He is at times abrasive, and very often rubs people the wrong way. For those of you who read his article on Bob Parsons, let’s just say the two share some similar personality traits.

Knowing him as I do, and getting to know those on the other side of this mess a bit, it’s relatively easy for me to understand how a business dispute – one with origins that pre-date MyGolfSpy somehow escalated to a deeply personal level damaging a solid business relationship in the process. We have exceptionally passionate people on both sides of the metaphorical table, and when passionate people disagree – especially where money is involved – relationships can sometimes go sideways…really sideways.

From my perspective, there’s plenty of blame to go around. Quite frankly, in letting the dispute manifest itself both personally and publicly, it’s fair to say neither side handled things with any particular grace.

All of this came to a head when Callaway’s legal team made the internal determination that no patent infringement had taken place and that it would not offer the compensation discussed during the meeting at the PGA Show. As his response, the owner of MyGolfSpy told representatives of Callaway Golf that he would consider using the full reach of MyGolfSpy to tell his story.

If the proverbial fan wasn’t already covered in excrement, it was now.

As a major golf media outlet, this website is his leverage. I would imagine it’s an almost unprecedented situation.

In response, Callaway made the decision to withhold all product and related information from MyGolfSpy.

Lots of back and forth…some publicly, some privately, and nearly one year later, we’re almost exactly where we were when this started.

None of It Matters To Me

I want to be absolutely clear about several things:

With regard to the patent dispute, I have no particular dog in the fight. Wherever the truth lies (and I make no claiming on knowing where it does), compensation for the design or not, my life is not impacted (financially or otherwise). I have no personal stake in the situation, and it has never impacted how I’ve covered Callaway Golf.

Certainly articles I’ve written about Callaway over the past year have been critical at times, but one thing has nothing to do with the other. Obviously I’m not oblivious to the fact that it may look otherwise, but I am my own man. Believe that. I’ve been perfectly clear with both my boss and the guys at Callaway; while the communication gap obvious impacts my ability to do my job to the best of my ability (and I don’t like that), I will not be involved in any of the other stuff.

And so yes, I have taken shots at some of what Callaway has done in the last year. Anyone who’s been here a while also knows that at one time or another I have been mercilessly critical of nearly every golf company on the planet, which is exactly why Callaway isn’t the first to put us in time out. I don’t make friends easily, but I am well-respected (mostly).

If you look at the whole of the body of Callaway-specific work, as well as how Callaway has responded, one could surmise that the company took some of what I wrote to heart.

After I criticized Callaway’s claim of Big Bertha being the #1 Selling Driver in Golf, Callaway changed the graphic to provide what I would characterize as more accurate context.

After I criticized Callaway’s V-Series launch, specifically the video where the company claimed that the new driver was “for anyone who wants to hit the ball farther”, the company removed the video.

My criticism has been neither unreasonable nor unfair. I stand by every word I’ve written without reservation.

The Communication Black Out

For the duration of the dispute, I have made every effort to work with Callaway, and from my perspective, the company hasn’t always followed through to the degree it suggested it would.

Early on, Callaway representatives suggested that a simple conversation could have cleared up some of the open-ended questions I raised in an article.

Fair enough, but my response was that it’s difficult to involve Callaway in the article when the company is unwilling to actually provide information or contribute in any way to the article.

You can’t provide two sides of a story when one side isn’t communicating, but that doesn’t mean I won’t write the article.

As the launch of Big Bertha Alpha 815 approached, I was told that, regardless of any dispute, Callaway would always answer marketing questions. With nearly two weeks of lead time, I submitted several questions, none of which received an answer. Those are the same unanswered questions I included in the Big Bertha Alpha 815 launch article.

Part of my job is to ask questions. If they go unanswered, I’m not going to pretend they weren’t asked.

While trying to work through the larger issues, at Callaway’s request I provided an outline of what we were willing to do to get things moving in the right direction. Well over a month later, the company’s response, which was tied to its decision to not participate in this year’s driver test, was that it will continue with the status quo for now.

And so here we are.

So Where Does that Leave Us?

As you can imagine, Callaway declined to provide any information around its most recent product launch. While some may point to the current situation as reason enough, I would suggest to you that Callaway’s efforts (or lack thereof) are inching closer to media manipulation – especially when one considers the efforts the company makes elsewhere to ensure its products receive a significant amount of favorable coverage.

For the sake of total transparency, I haven’t addressed this with Callaway (I’m sure it will be discussed shortly), but I’ve come to believe that by allowing us to be cast in the role of anti-Callaway malcontents, the company can more easily de-legitimize whatever criticism we happen to levy. Having us perceived as the bad guys probably doesn’t hurt Callaway.

That’s far from who we are.

No Resolution

The likelihood is that we’re far removed from any sort of resolution. The impact of how the the larger situation impedes my ability to provide you with timely, in-depth coverage of Callaway releases is frustrating, but the issues, I believe, are not insurmountable. I’m an optimist.

While the larger situation is unfortunate, I’ve worked (and certainly Callaway shares credit here) to maintain what I believe to be solid professional, even friendly relationships with several of the guys at Callaway. At some point…someday…probably not tomorrow, we’ll come out the other side.

So with the understanding that a resolution may not be in the immediate future, I felt it was necessary to put the speculation to bed, and let all of you know what’s really going on. We’re huge proponents of transparency, and given how much of what probably should have been handled privately has been aired publicly, I wanted to make sure our readers, regardless of how you might feel about the situation, understand its origins.

Speculative discussion have been had elsewhere, and so we might just as well have a more informed discussion here.

Thank you for your continued support of MyGolfSpy,

Tony

 

Tony Covey
Equipment Editor – MyGolfSpy

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Tony Covey

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Tony is the Editor of MyGolfSpy where his job is to bring fresh and innovative content to the site. In addition to his editorial responsibilities, he was instrumental in developing MyGolfSpy's data-driven testing methodologies and continues to sift through our data to find the insights that can help improve your game. Tony believes that golfers deserve to know what's real and what's not, and that means MyGolfSpy's equipment coverage must extend beyond the so-called facts as dictated by the same companies that created them. Most of all Tony believes in performance over hype and #PowerToThePlayer.

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      giles

      9 years ago

      Thanks for this article, it is helpful to understand the media relations and practices of a large company. Great job standing tall when, it sounds like, you are under various forms of attack. Keep doing a great job with the evaluations.

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      Daniel Hendrick

      9 years ago

      This is a live example that A patent dispute can prove to be a disaster for someone. Whatever that is between you and Callaway should’ve been kept within four walls for the discussion room. But they decided to come out after you and you’ve got to defend yourself and tell the truth as well. People will say this. At least I will. Hope for the best for all of you involved in this mess.

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      Cam

      9 years ago

      This Callaway article inspired me to say: regardless of what I read from the manufacturers, I prefer what I read from MyGolfSpy. I have participated in Callaway’s resurgence using some of their equipment. I am disappointed they are withdrawing from the game. While no manufacture will ever dominate the game of making the best equipment; the ones who continue to put forth the effort and encourage heads up comparisons, will continue to be my preferred manufacturers. Keep doing what you are doing, because that is why MyGolfSpy is my preferred choice for equipment information. Transparency is priceless!

      Cam

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      Darren Tan

      9 years ago

      I don’t understand when people comment that MGS is bad mouthing Callaway etc.
      This is as neutral an article as I’ve read on the internet.
      Tony is just laying down the facts and doing a damn good job as well.
      Anyone with a proper command of reading comprehension should be able to understand that.

      Tony, I’m with you on this and by the way I have nothing against Callaway. I don’t play them except for an old club I got many years back.

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      Gus

      9 years ago

      Thanks for the truth. Callaway is in the wrong here, but I won’t hold a grudge and still give the alpha 815 fairway a try.

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      xxio

      9 years ago

      From what I gather from other forums, the new top-secret-no leaking policy of Callaway applies to everyone. They are now stricter about leaked photos. I think they want to control their own marketing. Nothing wrong with that, it is their product. Calling them out on a policy, when there was an incident about that on this site—the leaked pictures that Callaway asked MGS to pull down—- just doesn’t sit right. Callaway needs to look out for themselves. Leaked pictures of products to be released in 3-4 months will definitely affect sales of current products. Buyers will wait for the new one or hope the mark down for the current units will come soon.

      I don’t see the point of putting this article out there except to paint Callaway as the bad guy. MGS is a great site but it does not mean it should be exempt from whatever policies a company has and “telling the truth” when it doesn’t get special treatment doesn’t seem classy to me.

      Flame suit on :)

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      Tony Covey

      9 years ago

      Sad thing about the interwebs. Everybody thinks they need a flame suite.

      We can clear this misunderstanding up with a bit more detail, I think.

      We’re not talking about spy pics. Callaway is excellent in that regard. It rolls with it when we get something they may not want out there, and with the exception of something that clearly came from a Callaway catalog, the company has never hinted at the threat of legal action (more than I can say for some).

      But that’s not what we’re talking about.

      As a matter of practice, Callaway provides media outlets with advanced information to product information, and product videos (Ad spots, Callaway Talks segments, etc.). This is common practice within the industry (pre-embargo media info), and Callaway’s media apparatus has quickly become the most refined in the industry. The lead time allows media outlets to prepare stories in advance and gives us ample time to speak with the relevant parties at Callaway should we have any additional questions. It’s a necessary part of covering the golf equipment industry.

      This is exactly the information/access that Callaway is no longer providing us with. This isn’t Callaway protecting itself from Spy Pics. It’s Callaway selectively choosing which media outlets cover its products on its terms. How can you argue for unbiased media and “Earned” media, while at the same time choosing the media outlets to which you provide info?

      I’m not asking for ‘special’ treatment. I’m simply asking for the same treatment (and access to resources) that every other guy who writes at my level gets.

      Probably worth a mention, MyGolfSpy has NEVER published unauthorized information (Spy Pics) ahead of embargo when the OEM provided that info. At that point it becomes an ethical issue, and we have never and would never act in bad faith. If it comes from the OEM it’s protected, and the golf companies know that.

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      xxio

      9 years ago

      Thank you for adding details. The bottom line it would be much more credible if you say “This is our side of the story”.

      There are always 3 sides to a story.

      It would be great to continue to open this can of worms and have the updates of the legal proceedings presented here when all is said and but with a reply from the other side. Unfortunately I don’t think that will happen, the big OEM bully will always have more to lose.

      I understand the love for MGS’ attitude of being forward thinkers but sometimes in the effort to be ahead and differentiate from the mainstream, things get misinterpreted and people get misunderstood.

      Luke

      9 years ago

      I’d rather quit golf than play crappy Callaway clubs…..that’s how much I detest the brand and people behind it. All of their “positive” reviews are paid for and cannot be taken seriously. It’s a joke of a brand.

      #callacrap

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      FTWPhil

      9 years ago

      So is there a legal issue keeping you from telling us what Callaway “borrowed” from the MGS’s starter.

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      Tony Covey

      9 years ago

      Choosing words carefully here…there is a dispute, which at least one side considers unresolved. The owner of MyGolfSpy believes Callaway has infringed on his patent. Callaway disagrees. I’m not making any accusations, I’m simply stating what the individual and business involved believe to be the case. It would be unwise for me to delve into further specifics.

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      P.M.

      9 years ago

      Golf is a wonderfull sport & hobby, a simple test make each year, and we look each day for up to date about this passion matter. I’m live near Montreal, and today with around -30C, one delight i have, is to check MGS handle with method, objectivity and fairness with a driver test contest. I hope each season to buy a new big boy for the pleasure ( or illusion ) to add regulary 5 or 6 yards more, with the pretention to shave maybe 2 or 3 strokes. Golf, golf, golf …devouring passion.
      For now, continue your real good wook, and put in your test all the contenders ( willing/and not willing), and in some case with some models of the past years. With all these 5 or 6 last years, with all little end big business make promise to add 5 or 6 yards to your current drive, I don’t understand why, I didn’t add 35 yards more since this time, maybe it’s the fault of the USGA or the age of my old bones.

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      Dave

      9 years ago

      Very well written article, thank you for passing along the backstory. This certainly puts Callaway in a bad light and has me questioning whether or not I want to support the brand. They do make a great product but so do many other companies. I’m leaning towards passing on Callaway and I imagime many others are as well

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      BIG STU

      9 years ago

      I have to agree with John Barry 100% on this. MGS has not ever drank the Kool Aid so to speak. They have always been un biased and truthful from what I have read. If they were not that way then Tony would not have been able to publish his above written story. It is just telling us what is going on and not taking sides just giving out information to let us be informed and to form our own opinion whatever it may be right or wrong. Personally I don’t get into politics of things If I happen to find a Callaway product that I can hit tomorrow then I may buy it. I darn sure aint going to kick out my old Steelhead that has been in my bag for 13 years because of this. As Paul Harvey used to say “now we know the rest of the story” Keep up the good work MGS

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      FTWPhil

      9 years ago

      Makes me say hmmm.

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      John Barry

      9 years ago

      I love the is site, the people, the members and the candor.

      Being witness in shoes/clothing market (non golf) I see how the big companies bully (even though Tony didn’t say bully) the smaller companies and retailers and customers in the end. Knowing this whole story, makes me almost 100% not likely to ever buy a Callaway product. It’s akin to buying American, a choice I make to buy something I can support or stand behind, instead of a company I have 0 respect for, especially after this!

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      RAT

      9 years ago

      Testing is the only way to get through the BS.” IT IS WHAT IT IS” .Some can’t accept that and never will, get on with it . I think MGS does a get service to the industry and the results may not be liked by certain mfg.s .Do a better job in building you equipment and the testing will verify itself… Please don’t give in to the pressure . A true competitor loves the contest and the results speak for the effort or lack of. I’m sick of all the claims of “17 yards longer ” , if you added all this up the club would hitting 400 to 500 yards longer than it was10 years ago.
      These test will show the facts ,just the facts. Maybe Cally, Titliest, Krank and at one time TM can’t back up what they say and refused to join in the testing by providing their equipment , that speaks volumes!!! It’s called competition ,you know NCAA PLAYOFFS, SUPER BOWL, WORLD SERIES etc… The MFG’S should love this if they believe in their product and the work they applied to it . Some are scared of this which would mean they have to really work at improvement.. which is MONEY..

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      Curt

      9 years ago

      If they stole the mans ideas for club design they should pay him damages and attorney fees. End of story!! I’m sure he has a good legal team!

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      Adam

      9 years ago

      All I can say is that I hope that you are right Tony. I would like to think that someday we wont be discussing this.

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      Andy W

      9 years ago

      First, did your owner of MyGolfSpy have a patent? I am thinking this article assumes that, but it needs to be clear.
      Second, I have zero ties and not defending Cally, but why would Callaway steal the idea when they could have just hired your MGS Owner? May be that that Callaway was out of work for their lawyers. But bad pub like what you just came out with is not something Callaway relishes I am sure…

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      Tony Covey

      9 years ago

      Andy – Yes, there is a patent.

      As for your second question – honestly I have no idea as to the specifics at the time, but generally speaking purchasing designs from independent contractors and/or licensing technology was at one time, quite common in the golf industry (I believe it’s less common now). All you still see industry design firms like Priority Designs, for example, that contribute to big OEM products.

      Many of the designs you’ve seen over the years – even some that contain what you might classify as keystone technology for a given manufacturer were developed by outside individuals…freelancers.

      Very often there are strict NDAs associated with the sale of designs, so it’s seldom discussed publicly.

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      Andy W

      9 years ago

      So Callaway believes not infringing on ANY patent and your boss believes otherwise. So legal battle ensues. Here’s an idea for a future article. Your boss’s patent is public knowledge, so post the patent # and give specifics about the patent. Cut & paste the stuff from the PTO if wanna. Then ask the MGS family (500K) if they can pick the Callaway product that reflects this patent infringement. Heck, even offer some kind of prize for those that get it right.

      Regis

      9 years ago

      Patent law in today’s world is like claim jumping was in the Wild Wild West. Filing a Patent is one thing. Whether a company infringes on it is another issue. For those not familiar with the story of Richard Kearns its an interesting read and arguably the most famous patent infringement case in history. . Kearns worked for the OSS (the predecessor to the CIA) in WWII. On his wedding night he lost sight in one eye when he got popped in the eye with a champagne cork. Trying to drive through the rain he came up with the idea of an intermittent wiper blade. Filed a patent in 1969 and took his idea to the Big three automakers who rejected it and immediately started using it. He sued and originally acted as his own attorney. Ford settled but litigation with Chrysler continued. He won a verdict against Chrysler in 1992 for $18.7 million with interest (23 years) Chrysler appealed to the Circuit Court who sustained the judgment and Chrysler took it to the US Supreme Court, who refused to hear it. In 1995 he received approximately $30 million after incurring approximately $10 million in legal fees. I believe he also filed claims against other manufacturers . He died in 2005 of brain cancer. When was the last time you were in a car without intermittent wiper blades?

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      AJ

      9 years ago

      So apparently it is ok for two to have opposing points of view on a subject which leads to a public slanging match if-
      1. Your pay grade is high enough
      2. You own the business
      3. There is skin in the game.

      I will quote the advice given in the past “grow up and move on”.
      Life is too short for this crap.

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      Mike

      9 years ago

      It is a breath of fresh air in todays world when someone has the balls to stand up for what is right and speak the truth. The main reason I read your website is because I purchased a callaway razor hawk driver a couple of years ago and could not believe how good a driver it was, and was totally surprised that nobody was playing it in my area, and did not even mention this driver when talking about clubs during the season. At the end of the season, mygolfspy rated this club the best club of the year. This article proved to me that you guys are not a website for hire, you speak the real truth. The truth sometimes hurts, but you have to respect mygolfspy for having the guts to speak it. Callaway, if you want to sell 400.00 drivers, you should kiss and make up as real golfers know mygolfspy is a no bs website.

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      DrebSmoove

      9 years ago

      The stories I could tell through nearly 10 years of employment.

      I have been an avid reader of MGS since it inception, for which most of the time I was employed by said golf company and monitored posts, reviews etc.

      During my last year at the company, I finished building a prototype of an invention, of a product that was completely new and had no competitor in the market. I presented it to management who were quite impressed and wanted to discuss it further.

      A week later I got an internal email and a follow up phone call from legal. They had instructed me to hand over all designs, documentation and my prized prototype, as they now “owned” my work, under the pretense that I was employed by them, and I had signed an agreement that allowed for this.

      The department I worked in had nothing to do with product design. Under case law in my country, I demonstrated that due to my position I owed the invention, the document i signed had no effect, and they were being unfair and I would not give up the rights.

      I resigned a month later.

      Why…. I would rather let my idea die then let big business steal it.

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      Curt

      9 years ago

      If true, great move! You have balls and are dead right in your position!

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      proside

      9 years ago

      I think the one year wonder of the BB revamped model says a lot about how little Callaway thought of their driver.
      Sounds like vindication to me.

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      @Xarraan

      9 years ago

      So Callaway is being a bully you say.

      This site in recent months has slammed Callaway and thwireless relationship with THP. Slammed them for releasing so many drivers. Called them rips off when it came to the supersoft ball. Constantly attacking the brand, Jamie and Harry from what I’ve read herected and twitter.

      Now you seem to expect them to give this site $1,000’s of in equipment to do a review and get the site hits making some $$ and getting more members.

      Maybe someone over at Callaway said enough of this bullshit and decided to pull support because you are acting like assholes.

      But I may just be going out on a limb and using common sense.

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      Tony Covey

      9 years ago

      It’s amazing how often people read words that aren’t there.

      I never said Callaway was being a bully. The summary version of what I’ve said is that there was a situation, it escalated. There’s blame on both sides, and so here we are.

      While at times frustrated by the delay in or lack of communication, I have at no time felt bullied by Callaway. I want to be crystal clear about that. Like everyone else in the industry, Callaway is free to not participate in our tests. For the most part Titleist doesn’t participate either (though the reasons are much different), but that’s very different from a blackout – a blackout that gives a specific advantage to our competitors. If showing clear favoritism to those outlets who you pay and/or can depend on for positive coverage isn’t media manipulation, quite frankly, I’m not sure what is. It certainly doesn’t serve the consumer looking for unbiased information.

      That Twitter stuff you mentioned…I don’t know who Jamie is so it’s a safe bet I haven’t personally attacked him. I’ve also never personally attacked Harry. You seem to know him…feel free to verify. I’m confident he’ll vouch for me. Please get your facts together before you personally accuse me of anything.

      Contrary to what you say, we did not “call them rip offs” over the Wilson ball. We interviewed the General Manager of Wilson golf and relayed his quote 100% as it was given. I’m not sure how you can reasonably suggest that’s us doing anything other than what journalists do.

      Yes. We have been critical of Callaway for releasing what we view as an over-abundance of drivers. We’ve explained why we feel that’s a bad thing, and supported our arguments with feedback from both consumers and retailers impacted by the over-saturation in the marketplace. If having been critical is the measuring stick by which the determination to supply or not supply is determined…well, I think that says all that needs to be said about how the golf industry operates and what its general expectations are for the media.

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      Lou

      9 years ago

      Ummmm, this site has slammed just about every brand they have ever reviewed and as such only did so when the numbers showed that there was in fact an inferior product. They’ve also slammed Taylormade recently but you don’t see Taylormade starting a twitter war with MGS do you?

      Tony wrote an article in which I believe he is being sincere with. Read it again. He, in fact, does not say one thing bad about Callaway. He simply stated there’s a dispute between his boss and Callaway. His article is surprisingly right down the middle. Remember, he works for MGS and still presented both sides fairly.

      If you have a problem when this site calls out a bad product regardless of who’s name is stamped on it, I suggest you stick with Golf Digest Hot List. Fairly obvious who’s paying for the gold ratings there…

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      Blade

      9 years ago

      I think you have a problem with your reading comprehension. You didn’t get the point and you completely made up “facts” that were no part of the article.

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      Dave

      9 years ago

      It seems that you have two courses of action. First, just leave Callaway out of the test. I seems like they are making that choice for you so by their choice their product will not be helped or hurt by your review. Callaway will not live or die by not being in your test.

      A second alternative would be to purchase Callaway equipment, test it and publish the results, good or bad. It seems that purchasing the equipment would serve to increase your objectivity, both perceived and real. Anyone could do the same and lots of folks who buy drivers get on the internet to praise or trash the product.

      I applaud you for your honesty in dealing with the situation.

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      Lou

      9 years ago

      You can’t simply leave Callaway out of the test. Regardless of what’s going on, there are many people that still play and swear by the brand. Without Callaway and Titleist in the tests, their fans will say that the most wanted driver test would have been won by their favorite brand had they been there.

      All brands must be included.

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      Janine

      9 years ago

      Great write up. I was looking at pulling the trigger on a new set of Big Bertha Irons. I won’t say this article completely changed my mind, but it has made me pause…

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      CydTazz

      9 years ago

      Callaway. Even typing it makes me want to puke.

      The company that drove the final nail into the coffin of the Hogan Brand. Then stole the Apex name to put on one of their crud designs and claim it as their own.

      All you need to know about callaway

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      phil

      9 years ago

      EF CALLAWAY!

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      Andy

      9 years ago

      Thanks for the article. Appreciate the honesty.

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      E

      9 years ago

      Most corporations want to control their own spin. Just do ure tests and put out results. Tell the truth, be done with it. Go on to next test.

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      obo

      9 years ago

      So this is how Callaway’s trying to change their image of old man golf company…acting like a spoiled teenager.
      Cool.

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      Jake

      9 years ago

      Really interesting story. I would hope that a company like callaway would have a bit more class in this situation, and it’s dissappointing that they don’t. Needless to say I probably won’t be buying any of their products any time soon.

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      Beak

      9 years ago

      Transparency probably would have been a year ago. What it is today…
      I like your site and your tests, but it is patently absurd to expect companies to donate clubs for testing. Your previous articles clearly slammed the companies that would not participate which I thought was dumbfounding and really sort of uppity. You indicated you would just go out and buy one. Now we learn that may not be true. Six golfers do not make a test. You haven’t said if the technology in dispute was used in the Big Bertha which would mean it doesn’t really help the club anyway.

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      Tony Covey

      9 years ago

      Lots in this comment I don’t agree with – including the notion that it’s absurd to ask golf companies to provide product samples (different from ‘donations’) for a performance driven test, the results of which will be seen by over half a million golfers, but we’re each entitled to an opinion.

      Didn’t like the terms of last year’s test…fine, but Callaway, and the other 15 or some companies who participated were provided with the details (including the number of testers), just as they were the year before, and again this season.

      I’m not getting into the legal/patent details, because as I said, I don’t know what’s absolutely true from a legal or ethical standpoint, I only know what both parties believe to be true (and I’ve never made any assertions that I know what the truth is…only that a dispute exists), but the effectiveness of anything (including technology) is irrelevant in matters like these. What matters is only that it has financial value.

      What isn’t open to interpretation is that we said we would buy Callaway drivers and we have done just that. I have no idea how you’ve come to believe otherwise. With the help of donations from our readers we have purchased:

      Big Bertha V-Series
      Big Bertha 815 Alpha
      Big Bertha 815 Alpha Double Black Diamond

      Furthermore, we have purchased enough quantity to cover the entire offering of stock lofts, flexes, and shafts.

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      Mike B

      9 years ago

      I appreciate MGS and their insights, however please do not make your problems our problems. MGS about INFORMING the customers about golf products to include but not limited to new releases and performance, etc. Not sure what value this story is bringing to your audience.
      Companies are always going to make their claims about being number 1 or the leader. Numbers can always be manipulated to make thing look better than they appear, whether the companies are using dollars, units, percentages, spin rates, launch angle, ball speed, smash factor, etc to validate those claims.
      Please do not lose sight of your companies core competencies. I believe your audience follows your site for those competencies.

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      Lou

      9 years ago

      Actually, this article explains exactly what you are talking about. Tony and the guys use their connections to get the inside scoop on what is coming from Callaway as well as other companies. He wrote the article to explain that with the current situation, he might not be able to do that hence not being able to do his job to the fullest.

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      Blade

      9 years ago

      Geez, talk about missing the point. You might want to read it again.

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      Doc

      9 years ago

      Good read. Callaway loses with the informed golf purchaser who looks past manufacturers advertising fluff and wants unbiased product comparisons.

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      john h

      9 years ago

      when i check my inbox and read the new golfspy post and then read all the comments it evokes
      tells me,most golfers have their likes,dislikes and what works for them but still think the super club/driver/set/putter or ball might be the next one they buy or the one after and so on it goes
      GOLFSPY dosnt brainwash me into buying a certain type/brand/style of golf equipment but gives me an account of what their testers found in using certain clubs/brands/balls etc and from there i try to make a purchase/test/tryout and dare to think, this is it my last purchase i found it
      BUT sadly with a garage full of clubs/balls etc, i am still reading and buying
      i must say that callaway would occupy about 8% in the garage ( 300 odd clubs )
      so keep up the good work GOLFSPY , and keep up the comments fellow golfers
      cheers from down under in AUSTRALIA

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      sandwedge59

      9 years ago

      In a world of falling interest of a sport where equipment companies do not seem to understand that if they continue with the attitude that they are the kings of the hill the when the business of golf is like Humpty Dumpty and all the kings horses and all the kings men could not put humpty dumpty back together again are going to die a painful death where there is no longer anyone to save them

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      Bullwinkle Moose

      9 years ago

      Clearly there are a couple of Callaway employees or stock holders represented among the comments. Could be a couple of Taylor Made supporters as well.

      Here is my take, Tony writes that he is producing this article as a complete open book on the on-going dispute between the owner of MGS and Callaway. He can be totally objective and from my perspective, appears to be doing a great job of maintaining his personal objectivity. There is nothing in the article that is anti-Callaway, just a report as to why their equipment isn’t being reviewed in as timely a manner as is most other equipment. I think he did a hell of job explaining the situation.

      I’m a long time believer in Callaway CEO Chip Brewer, and play Callaway equipment based on his record of innovation and business sense. Unfortunately my finances make it difficult for me to keep up with the product introduction pace, so I’m a couple of generations behind at the moment (about 3 months at current pace of release). I see no inconsistency on either parties part in regard to the article.

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      Gabe

      9 years ago

      I appreciate your & MyGolfSpy’s candor Tony. I look forward to MyGolfSpy’s reviews and product tests because of your FAIRNESS. Not to pick sides but Callaway isn’t making any friends if they plan on doing business as described.

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      Chris Robinson

      9 years ago

      mike – That’s a really well thought out response to well written and balanced story about what is going one between the two parties. “plus you are dumb” is one of the most infantile statements I’ve ever read on this website. It might as well have read “I love Callaway so boo sucks to you, all their gear is the best and if you say otherwise I’m telling my mum”.

      MGS remains a shining light of fair and open reviewing of golf clubs and they see the industry for what it is (marketing and hype over substance for at least 50% of the time) and are not afraid to state the truth or as close to the truth as they are allowed using decent language.

      No one is right and no one is wrong in terms of absolute performance. Its just an opinion based on collected data. Callaway have been more successful in the past 2/3 years because they’ve copied the TM playbook. It doesn’s mean they aren’t open to criticism and they should be able to take it on the chin.

      Harry does appear to be able to do that. I like Callaway products and love the look of the 815 Driver and would seriously consider testing one. I also owned the Apex Forged irons earlier this year and was really impressed with them but sold them on to go back to my Wilson FG V2’s (highly rated of course by MGS). Funnily enough they had just too much power and lacked some finesse. A bit like Callaway as a brand?

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      Tony Covey

      9 years ago

      Chris,

      Really appreciate this comment. I definitely don’t want this thread to devolve into name calling and other such nonsense. That type of thing has played a role in how we got to where we are today.

      Business didn’t stay business.

      On a personal level – and speaking only for myself of course, I like Harry. He’s an interesting guy to talk to, and while I’m on record as not always loving how he does things, he’s clearly making an impact in an industry that needs more impact makers.

      I don’t always agree with Harry, and Harry definitely doesn’t always agree with me, but that says nothing about who either of us are as people.

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      mike

      9 years ago

      Wow those comments about a marketing VP are pretty harsh Divots… wonder why u think that of him. If he is so bad why has Callaway been so much more successful as he has been at the helm. I think your attack is maybe a little too personal. Plus you are dumb.

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      mr_divots

      9 years ago

      Just to clarify my earlier comment: I have no experience in any private back and forth with Harry A. My comments were just observing some of his interactions with people on forums and social media and how aggressive and degrading he often is to people who might take Callaway to task in any way, shape or form. I think people in higher ranks for companies have to act with the company and employees’ best interests in mind, and his in the trenches style is pretty reckless. I’ve been kinda embarassed for Cally reading it sometimes.

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      gunmetal

      9 years ago

      Tough spot for MGS for sure. Didn’t know about the patent. Was annoyed that they got so uptight about the test results from last year given what the X Hot did the previous year.

      Does MGS need product directly from Callaway for the test? Couldn’t you “demo” some from a retailer or snag some from some one else for the test?

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      HackerDav31

      9 years ago

      Great read and interesting to hear about what’s fueled the fire. I’ll vouch for the legitimacy of MGS any day of the week. Like it or not, you’re getting the straight skinny!

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      v60

      9 years ago

      HUh??? the owner of MGS is in a fight with Callaway over a patent dispute, millions of dollars are at stake, and you have no dog in the fight…..That is a little tough to swallow. Sorry you lost me there. I dont really care one way or the other, or who wins the driver of the century award, but I find that less than honest. I think maybe your should care.

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      Justin

      9 years ago

      He works for MGS. The patent dispute is for another entity, which he isn’t involved in personally. I don’t really want to put words into anyone’s mouth, but from T’s perspective it doesn’t effect him. It may make his job a little more difficult, but he doesn’t stand to gain or lose from any legal dispute.

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      Blade

      9 years ago

      Tony wrote the article and Tony doesn’t have a dog in the fight. The situation predates his relationship with Colt. It’s not that hard to follow.

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      Frank S

      9 years ago

      Tony,
      Having worked for a few major OEMs and a billionaire golf investor. I see your problem in trying to compare equipment issued from these people and not only Callaway but others also, your mantra is to base all testing results upon transparency which in their corporate minds does not exist. The industry for many years has operated on smoke and mirrors in their approach to marketing product to the masses. No matter how you approach the issue, MGS will always be a negative force to have to deal with. But I’m not telling you anything you don’t already know.

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      mr_divots

      9 years ago

      As an independent writer for over a decade, take a guess which company was the ONLY major OEM to never work with me. They don’t like honesty at Callaway. Never have.

      Harry A. is an abysmal representative for ANY organization. I have no idea what is going on at Callaway, but if that’s the front man who’s in charge on making a good impression on consumers, I’d be pretty peeved if I worked under him. He does an excellent job making himself into an insulting twit on social media repeatedly. Yeah, that should sell some clubs. Not to mention jeopardize the livelihood of everyone under him and their jobs. He should have been gone long ago. He’s an embarrassment. I see an organization in chaos if he’s the leader.

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      Justin

      9 years ago

      Honestly, I could care less how a Callaway, Nike, Titleist performs. Obviously a fitting goes a long way, but there’s intangibles (sound, looks) that changes people’s perspective, for good or bad.

      That said, Callaway was one of two brands where I realized much of the OEMs claims can be not up to par, so to speak. Keeping specs similar, but only “upgrading” models (the FT line, actually), I never saw real improvements from the three heads. That’s where I’m at. Buy a new club, don’t buy one… just get fit. Buy what makes you happy.

      What I don’t like is companies that think they can push people around because they have the money or some perceived clout. X’s patent issue, (that company)’s legal battles with the USGA. Playground bully tactics is what I see.

      I already don’t think much of (that company); this solidifies my stance. If others want to keep or start playing their clubs, cool. Do what makes you happy. That won’t be me.

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      BKHacker

      9 years ago

      Good article. This does bring up a question I’ve been wanting to ask. Why do they need to participate? If they wont supply clubs just go pick up two or three and pass them around and rate them. That’s what 90% of golfers do anyway, one of your buddies gets a new driver and is having some success so you try a few swings with it, if you have success, off you go to buy one, probably online so you can say what a great deal you got. ;D If the manufactures don’t feel they get fair representation they should provide clubs. But for most golf consumers it’s stock off the shelf REG or STIFF, 9 or 10.5 deg. etc. For the golfer who truly wants to be custom fit, other peoples test results are pretty meaningless.

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      Dave S

      9 years ago

      Guess you didn’t read their posts on the upcoming Most Wanted test… that’s what they’re doing. Still including them in the test whether they want to be our not.

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      dcorun

      9 years ago

      I wonder what Eli would think about this dispute. Callaway has gotten away from clubs for the recreational golfer and is trying to hard to compete for the high end market. Eli wanted to make clubs that were made to work for us, the average guy. I also don’t believe he would be putting out new clubs every 3 months. I also feel that the patent dispute and the testing of clubs shouldn’t have anything to do with each other. I think Callaway got it’s feeling hurt with your reviews and this is their way of keeping their clubs out of your testing. I’ll just read Golf Digest to get the truth about their clubs since I don’t believe they have gotten anything less than GOLD for anything GD has ever tested from them. Enough said. Keep up the good work and I’m still one of your loyal fans.

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      confused

      9 years ago

      recreational golfer….callaway probably has more models than any company period especially for the recreational golfer. just since 2008 i believe these are the forgiving game improvement and supergame improvement irons. diablo edge,x-22,ft, big bertha 08, and 14, x-24, x-24 hot, fusion s, razr x, razr extreme, x hot, xhot n-14, x2 hot, edge hybrid, xr…..in fact the new 14 big bertha is so crazy long i might use that 6 iron as my 200 yard hybrid. i hit that consistently 200 plus. basically they come out with 2 sets every year that fall into borderline super game improvement. Unless i guess you were talking about cheap and not just forgiving…..buy last years model…..

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      markb

      9 years ago

      Well, after reading this article I feel like the child of divorced parents who has just read the court transcript of why his folks’ marriage failed. Now I know who cheated with the maid and who didn’t go down on whom often enough.

      Yeuccchh! I’d rather have my blinders back on.

      But none of that matters going forward. I will continue to use what I read about Callaway’s new offerings as mere “slight tips” of their potential worth — nothing more. Once I hit them and see what they actually do for me, NOTHING anyone else says or writes matters. I currently play a Callaway 2013 driver and love it, but I hated everything they released in 2014 and was very vocal in my complaints. If I find something new I like in 2015, then I’ll talk about in the MGS forums just like I do everything else. That’s probably what we the mere lay-members of MGS should be more zealous in doing as we go forward if the MGS staff is going to be embargoed out.

      We won’t really miss much if we’re embargoed out or if the MGS staff is forced into a “no comment” posture. The initial OEM product announcements are all bluff and hype anyway. The really useful product information only trickles back from the field after a few weeks or months of practical use and ultimately it can’t be manipulated by the OEMs. Their dogs will either hunt or they won’t and the hunters won’t be fooled.

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      GreenDoor

      9 years ago

      The job of a good spy is to reveal information without bias or implication of veracity; MGS and other sites put it out there and we ultimately have to validate, hopefully by using their findings as a launch pad for our own testing/fitting experience. But when a company appears unwilling to submit their wares for validation, I am naturally going to feel like someone is hiding something. For me, trust is multifaceted and goes well beyond marketing validation to deeper issues like quality, consistency, value, and especially loyalty. So, at the end of the day, when it comes down to two clubs performing at similar levels (and they will), my choice will be colored by far more than the tests performed here as I admittedly have a strong personal bias towards any company that consistently chooses the transparency of the high road. Results may matter for the quarter, but loyalty matters for a lifetime…

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      Clay

      9 years ago

      I hate to hear this, I enjoy your driver and fairway wood comparisons and will miss seeing Callaway as a part of the test this year. That said, hopefully no one uses the comparison to make their final purchase decision. Hit them all, I dislike TM but still tested the R15 and rsi 2’s. Waiting to see the XR Pro, but rsi 2’s are the best irons I have tested so far. The R15 was far inferior to the 915D3 for me btw.

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      dude

      9 years ago

      Interesting what you said about the rsi 2’s. I tested the 5 irons and it felt harsh, made of stone, awful…….the taylor made rep, nodded his head, affirmed my critique and handed me a 9 iron which is forged unlike the 5. it felt fine. I handed it back to him and said….not in the market for 8-pw………he laughed…

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      Birdeez

      9 years ago

      This is the kind of BS that golfdigest hotlist will never have to put up with when it comes to performance reveiws…….because they’ll give positive reviews for anyone willing to show them the money

      respect to mygolfspy for having some of the best and unbiased reviews out there, and if callaway has a problem with it start making a better product instead of just releasing a ‘updated’ model.

      callaway brand has sunk to new lows in my view. with the non stop release of product watering down their brand to attempting to discredit reviews on this site….i don’t pause when i walk by the callaway section at a local golf store.

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      Rich

      9 years ago

      Great article. Thanks for sharing. We won’t see a rebuttal, atleast we shouldn’t from a PR perspective for Callaway. Here’s hoping there’s a resolution, and it’s handle internally. As a side note, Callaway used this statement in their latest iron marketing:

      “redefining the iron category…again.”

      That sentence is unbelievably lazy. So effing lazy. Someone actually got paid to write that. Then someone (of higher authority) approved that sentence to be utilized in their marketing content. Golf marketers have been using that sentence for 30 years. Come on, guys. Fancy videos aren’t everything.

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      Rich in Tampa

      9 years ago

      I think MyGolfSpy is taking itself a little too seriously. I like reading the reviews on the site and the “inside” info is good, but this seems childish. Both parties need to grow up.

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      Mark O'Brien

      9 years ago

      Thanks for removing any doubt of where MGS stands and why I enjoy your unbiased reviews. Keep up the good work!!!

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      Danny D

      9 years ago

      So basically they have cut you guys off and refuse to take any calls or answer any questions?

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      Tony Covey

      9 years ago

      That’s not completely accurate. Callaway is not providing product at this time, nor are they giving us the same access to pre-release information that is provided to other media.

      In the case of the recent Bertha launch, the company did not provide timely answers to the questions we submitted.

      That said, I’m still able to leverage Callaway resources for what you might consider general industry information not directly related to Callaway products. They’ve actually been great in that regard.

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      Christian P

      9 years ago

      Good read. I was a big Callaway fan for years. I played Callaway irons and drivers until a couple years ago. I don’t think I’ll be buying any Callaway products any time soon, if not ever again.
      That makes two golf companies I won’t be buying from again. First it was Taylormade. Now it’s Callaway.

      Good Luck MGS! And Keep up the GREAT work you do for us!

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      dave

      9 years ago

      I for one will never buy another callaway product if i ever hear they were guilty of this. I guess its easy for me to say since i never have much luck with callaway products for some reason. I spend about 10k a year on golf maybe 3k on equipment. The drivers always seem to be a players driver or a hackers driver. nothing in between. The irons same way for me….the players irons are to much like blades, sharp soles that dig, not very forgiving at all. I have had the several x-forged, razr x forged etc. same issues always…..and the pro cast irons like hot pro razr x pro besides being ugly are pretty offset for a players iron…..I think callaway and ping have basically the same idea to club profile……blade no offset, player cavity, some(too much) offset, and game improvement tons of offset……..Taylor made….cobra….wilson….mizuno…offer forgiving player irons with little offset. longest driver ive ever had was the hot pro, not even close really…i just could not score with it. But for outings im all in…….

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      Dave

      9 years ago

      Who cares? They make real products and you guys do nothing.

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      huh

      9 years ago

      worst comment ever……

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      golfer4life

      9 years ago

      Dave are you allowed to use a computer without supervision? Your a complete tool and add nothing ever. Just go away…

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      Birdeez

      9 years ago

      Dave…..you’re either trolling or a d**n fool

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      Heather D

      9 years ago

      Tony – good article. Maybe Callaway’s not participating because they’re too busy flooding the market with drivers. (5 since August?)

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      Rex

      9 years ago

      Can you share a link to your boss’s patent? I’d very much like to see that….

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      Andy

      9 years ago

      Nice story to read and understand. Stay objective and true to the MyGolfSpy vision. That is why the readers come to your site. I hope your relationship with Callaway gets resolved over time. It helps both parties, when your reviews are done objectively and no perceived clouds/motives in the picture.

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      Corey Kasif

      9 years ago

      As the owner of a patented golf product wanting to license my design to larger companies this comes to NO surprise to me at all. An NDA is only as good as your bank roll. If you show them a great design and you can’t afford to beat them in a court of law, this can be expected. You should see the BS documents Nike sends you when you want to submit patents to them. Basically states that Nike may or may not steal your idea because we can! Good luck in the fight guys!

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      Vic

      9 years ago

      Great! Callaway’s actions rank right up there with “you can keep your doctor,” Payton Manning is finished, another ‘Bush’ in the white house stories that seem to permeate the air waves. Callaway does itself no good not to be a part of My Golf Spy’s forum. The information and testing done here are always informative and frankly, honest as I see it. But obviously the powers to be at Callaway prefer to act like a High School kid whose girlfriend started dating his buddy. I just purchased another driver and seriously considered Callaway and almost pulled the trigger. Instead I went with the Tour Edge Exotics X Rail and yes I’ll still wear their hats and play their wedges and balls and if they come around fine if not I’ll still be with My Golf Spy. But come spring when I tee it up it’ll be my new X Rail or trusty Nike Dymo I’ll be swinging.

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      Bill Ledbetter

      9 years ago

      Tony, this sort of thing is exactly why I’m a supporter of MGS. Transparency has always been your creed and I appreciate that very much. Keep up the great work and corporate politics be damned!

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      Regis

      9 years ago

      I’m pretty much retired after working as a trial attorney for over 30 years. Public perception notwithstanding the great majority of attorneys abide by a code of conduct that although pretty much self regulated is fairly clear. Avoid even the appearance of impropriety. So stop covering Callaway. Simply don’t include them in your articles or comparisons. Anybody questions why-you have your answer.

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      Tony Covey

      9 years ago

      Regis – I appreciate the reply. Not covering Callaway is something I considered. Obviously our readers want to hear about Callaway products, so I’m not sure that decision would serve my readers. It’s also important to avoid bias (with allowances for how things will be perceived) and ignoring the one of the top companies in golf because of a disagreement would be, in an of itself, a form of bias against Callaway.

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      Regis

      9 years ago

      Understood. But look at the contempt and hatefulness expressed by some of your readers upon the review of that new line of irons being introduced by Parsons (Bromance?) You can always mention a Callaway introduction without comment. But as soon as you begin to review them , you’ll be criticized if you come down to hard or if you praise them too glowingly (pandering). Not worth it.

      Justin

      9 years ago

      Personally, If I were MGS I’d just keep doing what they’re doing. It’s only natural that people are going to disagree. That’s life, and I know I’ve disagreed with them on many occassions. People don’t have to agree 100% of the time to have respect. But even though that may be the case, I know that while we don’t always agree MGS is doing their best to do what other golf media outlets either:

      A> were too chicken-$Hit to do in the first place , or
      B> were doing, but became too chicken-$Hit to continue doing . Damn, this cold….

      Randy

      9 years ago

      As fair as one can be with a dispute like this, thank you for airing your side of the story. I doubt we will hear from representatives of Callaway as to what they think is missing from this article.

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      W. Scott

      9 years ago

      I have a complete Callaway set. The people I have dealt with there for several years now have been great. But they are doing themselves a great disservice by allowing this situation with MSG to fester. I, like many I know, rely on MSG in making product decisions and have the highest level of trust in them. Callaway has been a great company, one that has repeatedly made courageous product decisions. We all benefit from the input, integrity, and initiative of both these organizations and it is in the best interests of both of them, and all of us, to quickly resolve their differences.

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      RAT

      9 years ago

      Thanks , this just reassures me of what I thought of Callaway “the Bully” . Sometimes the truth hurts. I too think even less of Callaway and would not ever purchase their equipment.
      Keep up the good reporting….

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      Dan Weitzel

      9 years ago

      It’s pretty tough to know the “truth” when one side takes the bullhorn in hand. I have no real idea what has taken place between MGS and Callaway, but I can tell you that Callaway has been an excellent supplier to me for truly “custom” clubs (that’s all I do) and they have also been very ethical in all business dealings with me as well. I will continue to support them as one of the top two or three suppliers in the market.

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      ha

      9 years ago

      of course! you are giving them your money so they better be ethical

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      Justin

      9 years ago

      Way to put it all out there! We need unbiased opinion in the golf industry, and that is what MGS provides. I’ve noticed a shift in Callaway’s media/marketing department since Harry came over. Best of luck to both side on clearing this up.

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      imrnjr

      9 years ago

      typical business — legal issues interfering with marketing relationships, but if they are so thin skinned as to not see the value of independent testing/evaluation I’d question their development process anyway……. more to come for sure……

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      Juan Ayala

      9 years ago

      Great article. I’ve already notice that Callaway wasn’t part of latest round of tests and I’m now glad that I know why. What’s really refreshing is that you don’t make any excuses. Their plenty of blame to go around but hopefully you two will kiss and make up soon.

      I’m a big fan of Callaway. I’m practically an unpaid sponsor of their products but I already let them know via Twitter that will change very quickly if I don’t see their products in their test:

      Juan Ramon Ayala ‏@juanrayala 7 minutes ago
      @CallawayGolf You need to kiss and make up with @MyGolfSpy. My future purchases will based on their tests not yours http://goo.gl/uoMMgj

      You have been very fair with Callaway and you have earn my trust, not them.

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      DMM

      9 years ago

      Yo, Callaway! I’m about to buy a set of your irons, because they performed very well on the range. I’d like to know, that in owning one of your iron sets, that you are transparent and not a cheater. In exchange I promise not to use my foot wedge. Though, with your new irons I may not need it.

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      Boom Chief

      9 years ago

      Thank you. First and foremost, thank you. Not that the public always deserves transparency and god knows we all feed off the flames, this is certainly one of the best, and by far fair, articles I have read. You covered and considered both sides and explained in detail. Please keep up the good work!

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      Nick

      9 years ago

      I’ve never owned a Callaway club, for no particular reason, but this makes me want to avoid them. I’m sure that wasn’t the message that you wanted to relay but the attitude of not accepting criticism or undermining the source of criticism speaks of a bully.
      They already have an image of being a private-members-club equipment manufacturer that only cares about rich golfers, in the UK, so this won’t help.
      Where’s the Callaway brand-perception survey after this article? :)
      I’m not sure that “Engaged” will be the watch-word for their image.
      Are they Shooter McGavin in company form?

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      Lou

      9 years ago

      This is sad from any point of view. What does MGS do now? If the new Callaway products don’t perform and you call them out, you are viewed as “Anti-Callaway” if they do perform, you are viewed as trying to “kiss-ass” to them. No win situation for MGS here.

      It is also sad that a company like Callaway would be so unprofessional to a point where they would go on social media and be start a “bitch-fight”. MGS has always maintained their integrity (and the main reason why I donated here) and I will believe not disclosing any info on their new products only shows their lack of confidence in their products as far as I’m concerned. Not cool at all….

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      Tony Covey

      9 years ago

      “This is sad from any point of view. What does MGS do now? If the new Callaway products don’t perform and you call them out, you are viewed as “Anti-Callaway” if they do perform, you are viewed as trying to “kiss-ass” to them. No win situation for MGS here.”

      Exactly this which is why I wanted to put all cards on the table. It’s sad how people lose track of the adult world. There’s no need to ‘talk’ to Callaway through my articles. Like most people, when I talk to Callaway, I use my phone.

      People will think what they think…

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      W. Scott

      9 years ago

      Thank you. Politicians talk about transparency but My Spy Golf does everything it can provide it on clubs, balls, accessories, and all other golf-related products and issues. I really appreciate it and it stands as the main reason I recommend this site to everyone I know who has any interest in golf.

      Reply

      Mike S

      9 years ago

      Nice article. I didn’t understand about the back story. Kinda makes me think even less of Calloway now. Keep up the good work Tony.

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      Kenny B

      9 years ago

      Nicely written! I appreciate the information and candor of the situation. I really hope that Callaway is willing to respond in a positive manner.

      Reply

      Dave S

      9 years ago

      It’s a shame that a patent dispute turned so ugly ended up effecting MGS, but can’t say I’m surprised. Of all the brands out there that should love the MGS Most Wanted testing, Callaway is definitely near the top. They’ve won best driver w the XHot and best Fairway w the Bertha… so they’ve had as much, if not more, success in the testing as any other company. Hopefully this gets resolved soon.It’s a sha

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      Ron M

      9 years ago

      Thanks for putting this up. This answers some questions I had in the past.

      Reply

      Hula Rock

      9 years ago

      Great story, Never knew the complete story……………….

      Reply

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