Values for voting

I don't understand why players on the opposing team can vote on griefers now, some will take advantage and try to keep them from being kicked, noticed someone doing that yesterday and the vote failed. Is this just a bug?

Also, I know there's been a thread on this stuff before but it might be useful if certain players have a larger impact with their votes like if they have a higher score than most, just like with team balancing?

 

Why not just have it so only the team that the person being vote kicked is on gets to vote?

Also. Make it the percentage of people who actually vote. Then less is required and only the people who actually care/ it matters to can vote.

 

Definitely, but there's voting for new maps too.

 

That other one is about votes having a timeout, iirc, you're talking about the actual percentage, that's why I haven't locked it.

 

My god I agree with this. That being said, it kinda pisses me off when someone screams OMG KLOK IS A GRIEFER and my team is like OH SHIT HE'S TOTALLY A GRIEFER and I have done exactly nothing to deserve that. Then there's a vote, I'm kicked when I was literally the powerhouse of that particular match, and now I'm pissed. That actually happened to me twice yesterday.

The way I see it, limiting it to only one team and only to people who voted means pretty much anyone can scream "Griefer" and that person will be kicked. But meh, it's a small thing I guess. This system will never be perfect.

 

I was playing a 4 vs 4 TTH game and then one of my teamates gave a keg to our enemies. that wasnt the first idiot/spammer attitude the dude did, anyways. I start a vote to kick him. When the votes start to appear i saw THE ENEMY TEAM PAYERS WAS VOTING and also they kick ME, the one who start the vote. What sense has that? im not the only one who want a change to the vote mechanics. There are various threads on the steam comunity about this. It need to be fixed.

 

Anything you do to improve the efficiency of legitimate votekicks is also going to increase the ease of votekick abuse. Before votekicks are made any more powerful I'd like to see the ability for server admins to close a vote fully.

I regularly see people get kicked on servers I'm administrating who I know have not deserved it, yet all I can do is unban them and attempt to contact them on irc or another server to let them know.

Heck, people have tried to votekick me despite being a server admin just for stuff like pulling an enemy keg away from a wall and unfortunately catching a few teammates in the explosion.

Given the frequency with which players start votekick campaigns against each other for things like meddling in each other's structures, there needs to be greater control before it is made any more powerful.

 

Yeah...the enemy team should not be allowed to vote during votekicks. Too often they either cannot SEE the griefer/hacker doing his thing, don't CARE about that player doing his thing, or are completely FINE with him doing his thing...very biased.

I also agree that it should work off the numbers based on who voted and not who is on the server...even AFKs are counted currently and it is impossible to kick griefers on small servers with 3 AFKs(and also kick the AFKs...). OR maybe if a vote gets double the amount of "Yes" as it does "No" it should also count...

However I also have to agree that the exploitation of the system is dumb. Just the other week I saw someone, I think it was JoshTG but I could be wrong, get kicked for hacking, a lot of the votes were done by the enemy team and people clicked them without even a second thought...he is well known enough to not be hacker...Kinda dumb that can happen. Sadly I can't think of a solution for this.

 

AFK's in particular. They usually are sitting at the spawn and therefore will rarely be seen by the other team. I think the ability to explain the offense would get more people to vote.
Edit: I just realized that the only thing worse than not getting a griefer kicked is getting kicked yourself (when you aren't doing anything wrong). It happened to me for the first time today, I wasn't the "Powerhouse of the match" but it was still annoying.

 

There are still flaws with it that make it quite annoying. The main thing is, people don't care enough, if at all. If a enough people don't vote, you either require a 100% vote or you still can't kick the person.

To use percentages of the people who vote, rather than a certain percentage of the server.

Do you think this is a good thing or a bad thing?

Do you think the current system is good or bad?

//EDIT: Unnamed- Moved to S&I and merged with an existing thread. Player management systems do not belong in Classes and Mechanics.

 

Voting works for the most part, but like you said it does seem to have some flaws. . .

The percent of voters instead of percent of people voting sounds interesting, I would gladly see it tested out for a few builds of the game.

Also one thing I have noticed, unless I am mistaken, is it appears people on the other team can still be a part of votes for player kicks. There should be an option for server owners to make it team only or something, because if you have 1-2 jerks or 1-2 clueless people on the other team that generally can cause people to be wrongfully kicked due to those people not being able to see if the person is a griefer or not.

Vote abuse is also really annoying, three guys took over the Official US TDM the other day and kicked literally anyone who tried to join, just so they could have their own personal fight...

Edit: This post was merged into this thread from another one, that is why it kinda seems like a repeat of my previous message here?