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Update: Blind Item revealed!!!!
This is one killer blind item, folks.
I’m hearing an established drama series that gets a fair amount of love on TVLine is set to whack its co-lead this season, so it’s time to start clutching your Grandma’s pearls.
Details are super sketchy, but rumor has it the fatal twist is set to occur in this hour-long show’s forthcoming fall finale. Meanwhile, there are conflicting accounts as to whether the death will actually stick. Given the importance this particular character has to the series, it’s tough to imagine that it would. But in this Will Gardner-offing, McDreamy-snuffing TV world we live in now, I suppose anything is possible.
This much appears certain: The episode in question will leave viewers with the very real impression that this fan favorite is a goner.
Now that you’re armed with all three of those extremely vague, inscrutable clues, hit the comments with your best guesses!
Why do I assume this is Castle?
Because it’s exactly what our deluded show runners would think would be a nice twist in our “fun” season
You mean “deluded showKillers”. ;-)
Touche. :D
You hit the nail on the head on the head LB.
I like showruiners better.
Oh Gaby. This isn’t one of those situations where if I get enough of that poisoned attitude daily I’ll eventually become immune. Such a pleasure to avoid people with your thoughts on the show, and it’s something I try to do now if possible. The show’s so much more entertaining without some “fans” making the actual fans miserable. If you don’t like it, you really should take a break.
Agreed. I hate this season
This kind of playing around is why I stopped watching the show. Not a fan of showrunners who jerk around the fans.
You mean showrunners who want to do their job and tell a story and not pander to all the shippers who believe that their treasured relationship is the only important thing about the show and that they speak for everyone by complaining every time a single adjustment is made?
There’s something that I think most people are not considering. I tend to think it’s Castle also. Everyone is blaming the writers, but nobody is considering that the writers may not have had a choice. Rewind back to the end of last season. Stana Katic held out on her contract. We were told that she signed for one season.
We don’t know the terms of that deal. It’s quite possible she wanted out and agreed to stay on long enough to “wrap up her character”. I’ve thought this is possible since the blind item about breaking up their marraige first came out. Also, that’s why I think Castle is the show in question. I believe the writers were forced into a position where they had to figure out how to continue the show without Beckett. Hence, the new characters and Castle working with his daughter more.
The things is, if this is the case, it was her decision to leave the show. The writers are trying to write a quality show despite her decision. Just my opinion on it.
What shows don’t have twists or suspense or ups & downs? Some shows are really gory.The last episode was good. Humor is coming back & know it will be better with a little bit of everything. Give them a chance.
Which is every show lucky enough to have a follow on season so you must have a VERY light viewing schedule.
I for one doubt it’s castle, the doomsayers just like to hate that show so when they’re not “predicting” it’s the last season, as they have for years, they go for other nonsense.
One hell of a poisonous fanbase with that show.
Definitely Castle. The Fall Finale is supposed to have a huge twist from what I’ve heard and it just makes sense.
Definitely not. I read the Fall Finale is supposed to have a “shift”, never saw anything about a “huge twist”. And no, makes no sense at all!
Castles show runner said it would be a twist that would bring them together in a fun way. That doesn’t sound like killing off one of their leads
Maybe they’re going for a Ghost-kind of vibe here?
I doubt it’s Castle, but the writers definition of “fun” isn’t what most people consider fun.
The whole season has made no sense. This would be par for the course – yet another epic fail.
The season’s made plenty of sense to many of us. Try paying attention. The only other “yet another epic fail” would be you continuing to watch a show for episode after episode and not figure out the solution to being unhappy. Either consider you’re the problem, or change the channel.
Seriously are you that much of a snob. You disagree with someone’s opinion and you go and nicely and not so nicely tell them to basically go away. These boards are for everyone to voice their own opinion on. Show a little respect. You may enjoy the show better than some of us because you can suspend belief, you are more willing to ignore the regression of the characters, and are willing to ignore the mythology of the story and how that has gotten lost. Whatever it is be respectful.
“Shift” could mean Beckett finds out that she’s pregnant.
Stana is working tomorrow on Castle, they’re filming episode 9 which will air in February.
Could be filming a few final scenes. No one knows for sure.
The call sheet reads Day 4 episode 809
Dude. How does this information make it to the Internet so regularly?
Prop guy tweeted it.
It simply says Call numbers 1 and 2. Maybe they moved Alexis to Call number 2..
Over Beckett’s dead body!
Beckett has multiple scenes with Castle, Ryan, Espo, and at least two guest stars.
Didn’t one of the writers say that they would be reuniting in episode 17 though??
The “big twist” is whether Kate is really dead or not.
The problem is, so many people hate the break-up storyline, I bet many of them won’t be back in February.
Considering Kate’s life has been severely threatened EVERY YEAR since Season Three, I can’t imagine viewers are going to be all that interested.
Dead characters can appear in future episodes for a number of reasons. For example Lauren German appeared on Chicago Fire after her death appearing in DVDs Severide was watching. So just because Stana is filming tomorrow for episode 9, doesnt mean she doesnt die in episode 8.
I don’t watch anymore but I thought of Kate, not Castle
Even though I don’t even watch the show, Castle was my first thought because the co-leads can’t stand each other!
And there is that stupid nonsense again!! I have no idea if they are friends or not and I couldn´t care less, I just wish people would leave the actors private life to them (sigh)!
They could not be working together all this time if they didn’t get along. period.
Stop reading the Daily Mail.
The Blind Item says “fan favorite.” And since Beckett is a very divisive character around these parts, I seriously doubt that phrase could ever refer to her. Which only leaves us with Castle himself, and of course it’s not like they’ll ever kill him off.
I’m kinda thinking Felicity on Arrow; though she does have plenty of haters as well, she’s more popular overall. It would also explain whose grave we saw in the season premiere. Just not sure whether she qualifies as a “co-lead” even though she sort of is now.
Um… regardless of how “divisive” Beckett is “in these parts,” she’s still a very popular character on the show.
Um, so TVLine should ignore its readership? Again, with the amount of complaining people are doing about her character lately, I have a hard time thinking Ausiello would call her a fan favorite. And besides, they’ve already done this cliffhanger with her before when she was shot in the chest. I wouldn’t put it past these showrunners necessarily, but still… And Castle was the last Blind Item too. I’d be shocked if the answer to this one was Beckett.
Umm both characters/actors are popular. Katic and Fillion both won TV guide’s “Fan Favorites” awards last December. The show right now seems determined to go out of its way to write Beckett out-of-character (Like, this is beyond reset!) in order to drag Beckett’s integrity through the mud, but Stana Katic/Beckett is still definitely a fan favorite.
Beckett is a fan favorite, if they’re going to kill Beckett, they’d better cancel the show already.
they did already with this story line, just look at the ratings
That was the first thing that came to my mind, too.
Cue the meltdowns. It does sound like Beckett, though.
Lkh, where are you?
Off course they could kill off Kate in the cliffhanger to allow her to go deeper undercover to find the bad guys. The hint said, “there are conflicting accounts as to whether the death will actually stick.” So we could find out she is still alive while Castle thinks she is dead. She seemed reluctant to sign the contract for this season, so maybe they found her an out to film less episodes.
I haven’t gotten to all comments, but so far the only guess I have people make is CASTLE, and I have no idea why so many assume this. (just because they do not like the current storyline)
But you know what – your comment and theory sounds something that is a probability on such a show. They could kill of Beckett (as she is the one currently working the secret case), and let Castle and others believe she died, while we know that it was faked and she just went undercover…or hiding. (think of Emily on CM, think of Mycroft on Elementary…etc).
But actually….this same twist is a possibility on any show, and on the actual show this is referring to. This way it is not a death that sticks. But it is also possible that this is a more sci-fi/fantasy show (or vampire show), and deaths just aren’t permanent in those.
HOnestly, I really have no guesses for this one. The few shows that I do watch, I cant connect this event with any particular show or character, and I know nothing of the many many ther shows that I do not watch.
As I have said many times I don’t think it’s castle because faking her death without telling castle won’t protect him. He will investigate and put himself in danger unless Beckett tells castle everything and we also find out too cause otherwise it won’t make sense to us and if you think people are complaining now they will be complaining more if they think she is dead or fake her death without telling castle because she is doing all this to protect him.
First thing I assumed too!
Oops, do I hope that it’s not Castle, yes. But, IMO with the way this season is going I won’t really be shocked if the show does this.
*Meanwhile, there are conflicting accounts as to whether the death will actually stick.*
I’m thinking Arrow and the one to die maybe Felicity or Diggle (even though they are more supporting characters than leads)…It is an established show. The death may not/will “stick” if they have a Flash crossover and Barry reverses time.
Plus, we know that *someone* close to Arrow dies, at least based on that 5 month flash-forward scene with him by a tombstone at the end of the season premiere. Granted, I have not watched the following episodes yet, so that could have been answered already. But it’s a definite possibility, unless Felicity isn’t quite a big enough character to get a “co-lead” description.
Perhaps Supernatural is another choice, with definite co-leads and fan-favorites.
I’m not sure Castle gets a fair amount of love from TVLine. They like the show but….
*Meanwhile, there are conflicting accounts as to whether the death will actually stick.*
I’m thinking Arrow and the one to die maybe Felicity or Diggle (even though they are more of supporting characters than leads)…It is an established show. The death may not/will “stick” if they have a Flash crossover and Barry reverses time.
Beckett was my first thought, but now I’m thinking Diggle on Aarow.
i wouldn’t think it’s castle breaking up rick and kate has gotten them alot of flack already making people thing rick or kate is dead would just make everyone stop watching that would be a horrible idea. now shonda on how to get away with murder i could see, killing off analise as she is already shot on floor in flashforwards.
No, because Analise is THE lead. There are no co-leads on HTGAWM.
THat was my first thought as well…
I automatically thought of Castle as well :( I don’t know if I could bare it. :(
If i have to say a partner in crime-solving, i will go for Watson in elementary
Jim, good take. I didn’t think of that one.
Naaaahhhh….TVLine doesn’t spend much time covering Elementary….
Castle was my first thought as well. I’m so NOT liking this season either. Why can’t they just make this the fun crime show it is.
I thought that, but now I think it might be juliette barnes in nashville.
Abbie or Ichabod on Sleepy Hollow?
That’s my thought.
would Sleepy Hallow count as an established drama???
is Sleepy Hallow an established drama??
my bad.
On the one hand, I hope it’s not them, but on the other hand, this IS a supernatural series, so if whether or not this death will stick is in question, well…:p.
If it is Sleepy Hollow, it won’t be Ichabod, it would have to be Abbie. The show can continue without her but not without him.
It could, sure, because the original Sleepy Hollow story focuses on Ichabod and the show would continue in that vein…but a lot of fans wouldn’t find the show as appealing without both of them around. I sure wouldn’t want to lose Abbie.
Besides, considering the recent episode where Abbie’s fear about losing Ichabod was exposed, I could see that being foreshadowing for something happening to Ichabod. And since the series started with him being resurrected, that would fit well into the “will this death stick?” part of this blind item, since most fans would logically assume that Abbie would try to find some way to resurrect him again, or he’s “dead” but not really dead somehow, or something.
If they kill him, he’ll stay dead for maybe one or two episodes, making the whole thing a gimmick. If they kill her, she can stay dead forever. Then again, what does dead mean in a show that included Purgatory as a setting?
*death
Well, since this death is supposed to be a “are they really dead or not?” thing, it could potentially be a gimmick regardless of what show it’s for. So if it is just intended to be a gimmick, then it’d fit for Ichabod.
If it did turn out to be permanent, though, and your theory about Abbie being killed off permanently came true…the show would have one hell of a pissed off fanbase on their hands. Fortunately, though, I don’t think they’ll go there. I certainly hope they won’t, anyway.
But like you said, if it was this show, whichever character it was would have the supernatural element on their side if they ever wanted to come back :D.
If Sleepy Hollow permanently kills Abbie, or Ichabod, for that matter, the ratings will go through the floor. Just sidelining Abbie last season HALVED the ratings. Another hit like that and the show’s off the air.
OR they might replace her with someone who might draw in more ratings. You can’t know for sure. People will watch anything, i.e. Trump and Kardashians.
It absolutely cannot continue without Abbie. They pushed her to the side in Season 2 for Katrina and that was almost the end of the series. The witnesses rely on each other and Crane, in particular, is a lost little puppy without her. Look at the countless times she’s saved his hide. Get real.
Abbie is replaceable. Ichabod on a show called Sleepy Hollow would not be.
This white guy is really pissing me off with his be comments.
Skin color has zero to do with anything here. Don’t be obtuse and focus on what is being said rather than the fantasy in your head.
There’s nothing replaceable about Abbie Mills. LOL! Why are you dudebro Sleepy Hollow ‘fans’ like this? Giving other male viewers a bad name here, man. Mison was hired for this show because he had chemistry with Nicole, did you know that? The EPs wanted her badly and didn’t think they’d be able to get her. Implying her character is nothing more than his sidekick to his is foolish and such a statement lets me know how invested you are in the series and how well you understand it.
This not about Abbie in particular, it is about pointing out that of the two of them, the one most likely to die in a show called SLEEPY HOLLOW would be the one created FOR the show and not the one about who the story is about, which would be ICABOD.
GTFO of here with the show can continue without Abbie. Nicole Beharie and Abbie has a bigger fanbase than Crane. This is why the show sunk. This kind of thinking from a certain part of the fandom.
I never said I’d want her to die. I’m pointing out that the show is called SLEEPY HOLLOW, in which the male lead is ICHABOD CRANE, the lead from the story that inspired the show. If you kill HIM permanently, the show ENDS. You can kill ANYONE ELSE except for HIM, including Abbie. They are ALL expendable.
BS. The show cannot survive without Abbie. Its their chemistry that keeps the show going. Get a flipping clue, man. WTF are you even thinking? What show are you watching? Do you even watch this show?
Clearly you still have trouble grasping what is being said. The show is called Sleepy Hollow. It is based on the story of Ichabod Crane as written by Washington Irving.
Abbie and others created for the show are replaceable. The only one who cannot be written out is Ichabod because if he is then the show is over. They’re not going to make a Sleepy Hollow show without Ichabod Crane to keep fans of Abbie Mills happy. She’s not going to stumble across another Revolutionary rebel who was also put in stasis 200 years ago that could replace Crane. You need to understand these things and stop letting that fantasy that plays in your head control you.
Abbie isn’t replaceable because the actress is more established and a bigger draw. You can continue a show in Sleepy hollow that makes sense without the Abbie Mills character, but you won’t get enough viewers to keep it on air.
That would still have no relevance on which one of the two is replaceable. The one created for the show or the one who the story is actually about.
I understand and agree with what you’re saying, Michael – ‘Abbie’ fans are particularly rabid, and will never agree that the show could go on without her, so they’re either unaware Sleepy Hollow is based on an actual piece of literature or they’re being deliberately dense. I like the character and the actress, but Crane is the only essential character; anyone who thinks otherwise may want to read the original story written by Washington Irving.
Exactly. Or watch the Disney toon. It’s awesome.
I’ve watched from the beginning and I agree that it would be a serious mistake to cut out Abbie. Her “ancestor” in the show is connected to the past as well and shows why Abbie is connected to the ultimate plot … So it is something that cannot just happen and someone else can take over … That would not just be overlooked
Sleepy Hollow was my first thought. The showrunners have said fairly consistently that there are two witnesses but haven’t necessarily confirmed that Abbie is one of them. There’s been quite a few theories that it’s actually Ichabod and Jenny that are the witnesses. I personally don’t think the show could continue without Abbie if only because all the Ichabbie shippers out there would die right along with her…but the question of whether or not the death will stick leads me to believe it’s a supernatural series
Indeed.
Actually it has been confirmed many times by the creators and revealed by many people in season 2. Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin and Abbie’s ancestor in the finale all referred to Abbie as the second witness (with Jefferson explicitly telling Ichabod he was unable to know he was a witness until he met Abbie) . And two witnesses were required to get Solomon ‘save sword, so it’s pretty safe to say that the two witnesses have been named and exist as Ichabod and Abbie.
I still think Abbie can die, while Ichabod cannot. In a show were purgatory, Hell, and Heaven are part of the narrative, however, death isn’t always final.
Better not be!
There has been so much talk about course correcting and one of the most agreed upon problems with last season was the lack of Crane and Abbie working together and their dynamic. Why renew the show and promise to get back to what made season one special only to torpedo that halfway through the season? It makes zero sense.
Beckett on Castle?
Castle!
This is an easy one. RIP Kate Beckett.
No. Stana is working tomorrow. Episode 809 so no.
It could be a ruse to go along with the stupid “breaking up” plotline. She plays dead for a couple of episodes.
I agree with you.
Stana is a producer now lol Not dying
Gotta be Beckett from Castle
Katic is filming tomorrow episode 809 so nope.
I’m not sure with shooting 809 tomorrow was anything to do with it. “Set to whack” and fall finale mean to me more like episode 809, 810 or 11 depending on how many episodes they air in the before the break. Was it ever said it was shot already?
Fall finale is 8×08 and has already been shot!
Except we know that 809 with Castle is the premiere of the second half of the season.
808 is the fall finale. They aren’t airing 809 until Feb.
Could be flashbacks
Still could be Beckett, even if she IS filming. Did you miss the part that says it “might not stick”? She appears dead in the Fall Finale, but is in fact alive for February.
Re-reading the blind item, I realized that the knowledge that Katic is filming 8×09 pretty much excludes her. It says that there are conflicting reports about the death sticking. Since she *is* filming and it was previously reported that Katic would be in all episodes there wouldn’t be any need for conflicting reports, would there?
Uh, that does not mean anything. She could be appearing in a casket…or in flashback, as an apparition or figment of the imagination,
“…appearing in a casket…” Heh. I see what you did there.
First thing that comes to mind is Annalise Keating / How To Get Away With Murder… considering the flash-forwards we’ve been getting.
However… I think it could be someone else / another show entirely…
There is no co-lead on HTGAWM. Viola just won an Emmy. She’s safe.
There is no co-lead on HTGaWM
Ooh, yeah, I could see that. I don’t know if the show is considered “established”, though, since it’s only been on a couple seasons thus far-“established” seems to imply a show that’s been on for a good number of years.
But I’m willing to go with this guess.
Dear God, please let it be Fitzgerald Grant on Scandal.
Oh, that would be SO awesome.
Yesssssssssssssssssss!
That would be amazing. I’d watch the show again if that were the case.
This!
Exactly!
FROM YOUR MOUTH TO MAMA POPE’S MIND!!!!!!!
Lol
If that happens then the show would be over because only you guys would still watch it lol
Uh, no. Apparently the Fitz hate out there is strong and real. I have finally found my people!
Killing Fitz would tank the Scandal ratings completelyly. People underestimate how many casual viewers still like the character. Killing the primary love interest on Greys is already hurting the whole of TGIT’s ratings, there’s no way they’d be stupid enough to make a mistake like that twice.
Actually, Lee, that’s not true. GA still has the highest ratings of any TGIT show on ABC. It has not really taken a ratings hit, and you certainly cannot blame year-to-date declines of Scandal and HTGAWM on one character dying on another show.
SCANDAL always beats GREY’S in the demo, HTGAWM regularly ties it…
Amen
Yes!
Sorry to disappoint but it’s not Fitz. Co-Lead implies that the show is built around two leads. Scandal is built around Olivia well it used to be now it’s the damn Mellie show but either way Tony Goldwyn would not apply here. You are looking at shows that push two leads ie Castle, Bones, Sleepy Hollow. Also I don’t think ‘fan favorite’ fits either. Shonda has done the most at making people hate Fitz. Plus I don’t see Shonda pulling that so close to McDreamy. So guess you can keep not watching or only focus on Mellie and useless Jake.
Castle! I agree….It is not my bae Fitz! He’s not a co lead.
I love Mellie and Jake. I would definitely watch the Mellie and Jake show, get rid of Olivia and Fitz.
YES!
Shonda Rhimes should get rid of the first black female lead on prime time television in 38 YEARS? That’s the worst advice I’ve EVER heard given to a showrunner, she’d never live it down. Besides have you SEEN the ratings of Bellamy Young and Scott Foley’s recent work? You might watch the Mellie and Jake show, but you’d be one of the only people who did, it wouldn’t last half a season! TV Isn’t a charity, they need ratings. Let’s give Mellie and Jake a spin off and see if they can deliver , huh?
I would return to that scandal spinoff… I just can’t stand Olivia.
This Is OLIVIA SHOW and any Bellamy Young lead show would tank and Scott Foley. If that was the case, how come none of them had a hit before Scandal. Okay…NEXT!
Agree, the death is not on Scandal. If I could choose, I would love it if Mellie, Jake or Rowan got knifed in the back and died. They are all horrible, slut-shaming, physically and emotionally abusive leeches that take from Olivia. Jake choked her for goodness sake and gave her a concussion. He should’ve died 2 seasons ago.
Well to be fair…Olivia deserves to be slut-shamed, she is a ho mewrecker, a side-chick a mistress…call it what you will! And the person who has disrespected and slut-shamed Olivia the most is Fitz!
Olivia deserves to be slut shamed? Did you miss Mellie sleeping with her husband’s friend?
Most of the commenters on here actively dislike Olivia. They enjoy her being slut shamed because she flies in the face of their patriarchal, conservative, misogynistic worldview. A lot of Fitz haters actually hate him because he treats Olivia so well and they view her as inferior to Mellie.
That’s why they get such joy watching Jake ‘Put her in her place’ by choking, threatening and publicly humiliating her.
Their mistake is that they confuse their passion with strength of numbers. Their contempt for Fitz and Olivia is real and strong, but they’re not as plentiful as they think. Most casual viewers still root for the central couple, Fitz and Olivia, who MADE this show a success.
That’s why the show lost 2 million viewers when she threw the ring at him, and that’s why the writers have put them back together.
The people that come on here to blog are the most passionate. but they’re not the average viewer. The average viewer can barely remember Jake and FULLY remembers Mellie’s active participation in both Fitz’s affair and her own.
The word “useless” can only be followed by the name Fitz because he is the most useless character on the show….
YES!!! Absolutely yes!
Yes! Especially if it sticks.
Oh yes! I thought I was the only one. And wouldn’t it be a kick to see the VP become President? OMG, an honest President in the White House! Washington DC would never recover. *still laughing*
OMGoodness Yes Lord!!! Let it b FItz
I would shed no tears if this was it. That man does not get to walk into the sun. No sir.
Fitz was my first thought. Shonda loves killing off characters.
If it is Fitz, Scandal might actually be watchable again.
Gotta be Castle – they have already been hyping a bit twist in the fall finale that will shake things up even further. Beckett’s a goner folks.
Katic is filming tomorrow so Beckett isn’t dead
is the fall finale for castle going to be before ep 9 airs cause if its after that still leaves the show as an option
Castle is airing 8 episodes before it goes on hiatus for the winter (and comes back in February). Episode 9 airs in February.
unless she’s there for flashback scenes or something?
Maybe it’s Arrow? The 1st ep of this season did flashforward to Oliver attending someone’s grave.
No one on Arrow is technically a ‘co-lead’ though. They’re all supporting characters except Ollie.
I think it might be Arrow too. The co-lead could be either Laurel or Felicity.
But we know about that death. It wouldn’t be a blind item.
Katic is filming tomorrow goofballs
They don’t want to hear you. Lol
This is hilarious to read this feed and about every third comment is AJ saying that Stana Katic is filming tomorrow!!!! LOL
I’m not throwing my hat in for Castle, in fact, I don’t even watch it. However, one can be killed off in an earlier episode, season/year, or even series (if watching a spinoff of something else) and still shoot scenes for flashbacks, etc… Didn’t they do that for Person of Interest (another one I don’t watch) this past Spring? Heck, a dead character was in Dexter for 96/96 episodes, according to IMDb. For Grey’s Anatomy (still not a viewer), people kept shouting that a certain actor had signed a longer contract, so “it couldn’t possibly be the actor’s character that [will die].” They also used “goofballs, dummies, etc…” towards other people when saying that. It can be nice to be right, but it should be fun to guess. I’m all for celebrating the more educated guesses, but in the end, it’s just another crap shoot where no one should feel too bad for guessing something that makes sense to them. Cheers – I hope if you decide to guess, you guess right! :)
This. There are SO many reasons Stana could still be filming and ALSO be the character who “dies”. I’m not saying she’s my guess, and I do find it intriguing that she’s scheduled to film the next episode, but I don’t believe that’s the silver bullet of proof that she’s sticking around. There was a character on The 100 who died in one ep and was in the episode after that…and maybe even flashbacks beyond that – I can’t remember. It’s been done before. It’s good to know the info about Stana’s filming schedule, but that shouldn’t take the fun out of people guessing. :-)
All I’ll say is that if this blind item does wind up pertaining to “Castle”, my heart’s going out to that fanbase!
The Fall finale wouldn’t have filmed yet. So her filming tomorrow doesn’t mean anything.
LOL You didn’t see all the comments stating that the fall finale has already been filmed?
They finished last week for the fall finale so there.
they are desperately praying for katic to leave lol ,even if she’s filming
I hope it’s not Juliette from Nashville :(
Yeah, thats what I’m going with. A finale that allows them to play the second half of the season with whichever way works for Hayden. That show would, quite honestly, suck without Hayden in it… but she has to do what is best for her and her baby.
Exactly what I was thinking. Maybe Hayden has warned them she might not come back so they are giving her an out.
It’s a show that gets loads of coverage here. Prob not Nashville.
Nashville gets love here.
Nashville gets TONS of TVLine coverage!
you might have a contender with this guess.
i just wish the best for Hayden and her family. <3
That’s my guess too, especially after next week’s preview.
This is exactly what I was thinking. The months of making us hate her Character, I’ve thought she was leaving for a while. I just hope Hayden gets better in real life.
Yeah, that was my guest. She’s definitely been marketed as a co-lead. And with her absence from filming now, it’s one creative way to deal with her disappearing act.
I’m done with nashville if it’s juliette. I support Hayden if she needs to leave but the show is not the same without her
Really hope I’m wrong but sounds like Kate Beckett is a goner – unless Rick is the goner and this fuels her crusade even more ……… but either way, sounds like Castle
Its gotta be Stana Katic now that her and Castle are separated.
Katic is filming tomorrow episode 809 so no.
LOL This is like your 8th comment that she’s filming. Still doesn’t make it impossible. Besides, if the death is going to happen during the show’s fall finale, which is typically the 8th/9th/10th episode, then it still could be Beckett and this 809 would be her last episode on the show.
TVLine’s made it pretty clear that 808 is the fall finale.
Hmm, not saying it is Kate or Castle at all, but I can’t help remembering that when Kate was killed off on NCIS season finale, Sasha Alexander was still in the next season premiere.
I absolutely do not think that it’s Castle, but just because the finale is episode 8 and Katic is filming 9 doesn’t mean it can’t be her. Derek showed up on Greys again a couple episodes after he died. Leo was on Chasing Life one episode after he died. It’s called flashbacks.
YOU GUYS with the finale shooting schedule! Enough! The item clearly says the character may not be dead-dead for good.
Fall finale is the 8th episode which is why she pointed out that Katic is filming ep 9.
Yeah..but to be fair, her filming 809 could be her in a flashback/memory or lying dead on the ground/at her funeral.
Otherwise, what is the point of the entire plot line of “father/daughter PI team trying desperately to be like Veronica Mars but failing because the writing is nowhere as good and Alexis is unbearable” that the show keeps forcing?
Yes, but filming doesn’t mean she’s filming scenes in the present. She could also be filming flashbacks for episode 9. They could be keeping her on set to misdirect people. I don’t know if it’s her or not, but filming episode 9 doesn’t prove it isn’t.
Based on rumor mill – Stefan, TVD.
Meant to add – it especially fits the ‘hard to imagine it sticking- bit. Hell, Bonnie was a ghost for what season plus, and Alaric resided on The Other Side for two. The show is the ultimate in ‘deaths that don’t stick’
That would actually break my heart. I sure hope it’s not him.
Well, it probably wouldn’t stick. And they did kill Carol Lockwood last moments of S4 winter finale, so some precedent there too
You make some good points about this show being the queen of non-sticking deaths haha.
this was my first thought as well…they are known for their “deaths” that tend to reverse themselves later on
Agreed. If there’s doubt of whether it’ll stick.. then im leaing heavily towards TVD.. So probably Stefan.. Just setting up for angst central given how important both Damon/Stefan & Stefan/Caroline relationships are this season.. Should be interesting given that there’s no “other” side anymore, how they’d bring him back..
Can’t imagine with the show flailing without Elena they would kill off another main character, when all the promos this season are about the two brothers.
I finally gave up on TVD last season, but this show was my first thought, too.
Oh Lindsay, I really hope you change your mind and watch at least the first episode of this season because it has changed tremendously and the show is back to the old feel it had in season one! Both episodes have been quite interesting and intriguing. :)
My thought too, even though I stopped watching after they decided to give Caroline and Stefan personality transplants to try and make the ship work. Besides, it’s pretty clear that PW wants to be off the show with the comments he makes at cons, so maybe he’s finally willing to risk losing the regular pay cheque.
Anyone know when are we supposed to catch up with the flash-forwards?
Not exactly, but I’d guess this would be the ep that we catch up with it, and the rest of the season would be dealing with the fallout.
I wouldn’t like that, that 3 year difference between tvd’s timeline and the originals’s.
Actually, the whole “Stefan is dying and going to hell” plot is supposed to happen a little too early to be in the fall finale, so I think that rules Stefan out. I was considering Hayley from The Originals actually. There have been a couple rumors about killing her off circulating lately, but I just don’t see how they’d swing it after building the entire show around her and her baby. She does qualify as a co-lead though with Joseph and Daniel.
Hadn’t heard the Hayley rumors, but agreed that it doesn’t seem terribly likely. When is the Stephan dies and go to hell bit supposed to happen then? Next week or two?
If they were to kill her off it’d likely be at season finale time, not midseason. TVD/TO typically won’t kill a main until finale time, and doubtful it would be Hayley with the plot of kill all Originals looming over their heads. If the death was from TO I assume it’d be Elijah and he’d eventually come back, because please, killing off an Original is suicide to an already not that strong show.
But they had him calling Caroline in the 3 year flash forward so wouldn’t really be much impact as we know if can’t stick.
Yes, but the death would be in the flash forward not the present
My first thought was Scandal. I wouldn’t put it past Shonda to kill Fitz off at this point.
Yes! This.
I would love for them to kill FItz… let whatshername be president,.. would be a much needed shakeup for that show.
As long as it’s not Jake.
To me this reads Ichabod or Abbie. It only says ‘established’ show, not long-running or huge ratings-wise. The whole witness thing would mean one of them dying would be quite the blow to the fabric of the show.
Wasn’t the last blind item Castle ? Hope it’s something different this time.
Yeah that makes me think it is not Castle but then again it is a “drama series that gets a fair amount of love on TVLine”
This is one of those few times where I agree with people who say that TVLine likes to clickbait Castle fans. The odds of them having two items in a row about Castle are slim, and yet they carefully worded the item so that it’s easily linked to Castle – even for people who don’t even watch the dang show.
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Tricky, tricky.
It is not a drama series, even in a interview with tv line Nathan said “castle is not a drama”!! Also they have said Stana is in every episode this season, maybe the fake a death! I don’t think she’d be in every episode as a flashback especially if they were trying to move on
Much as I would normally say it’s Beckett on Castle, Stana Katic is still filming the show, thereby negating her as a possibility.
Unless she isn’t actually dead, and this is just a big Bobby Ewing in the shower BS story line.
Flashbacks
The fall Finale wouldn’t have been filmed yet. So her still filming doesn’t prove anything.
The item clearly says the character may not dead for good. Plus it could be flashbacks or casket (oh man) scenes.
While winning points for taking on a literal twist, that would not be a very happy reunion for Caskett…
Regina on OUAT
Bite your tongue!
If Regina dies I’ll riot, she is literally the main reason I still watch Once Upon a Time!
I could only hope.
My first thought was OUAT but I thought maybe Emma
My first thought was Snow White on Once. They hinted at something this week in the episode. Maybe she’s looking to take a break?
I would be ecstatic if that happened, but I doubt it…OUAT doesn’t really have two co-leads though. It’s more of an ensemble, arguably with one lead (Emma).
Right show, wrong character. I’m guessing Snow or Charming. Neither really does much for the show anymore.
I was thinking smeone from OUAT.
Shemar Moore/Criminal Minds
Does TV Line give Criminal Minds a lot of love, though?
Yeah, I was thinking about that, too. They have covered the show on here, yes, but they don’t do weekly reviews of the episodes and stuff like that, so I don’t know if that counts.
I did briefly wonder if it would refer to “Criminal Minds”, though, because of the news that one of the regulars would be leaving this season. But MGG is supposed to direct that episode, and I think they’ve filmed or are close to finishing filming for all the episodes up to the fall finale, and he’s not directing any of them, so…
Plus, the term “co-lead” is a clue, too-“Criminal Minds” is more of an ensemble series. “Co-lead” implies this is a show with two main characters.
Oh hell no, don’t even suggest that
Could it be Bones!
Nope, we already know the fall finale will be something that centers on Hodgins & Angela, and is something that affects them big time. I’d thing if one of the bit two on Bones (Booth or Brennan) were killed it wouldn’t be a Hodgins/Angela centric storyline.
Thursday’s Bones episode made me think of this and feel almost sure it will be Booth. It dealt with him reading Brennan’s book, seeing she killed off the character based upon him, and getting upset. At the end of the episode, she said there were ways to bring the character back. I think it will happen in the “real life” of the show.
Sorry just because this episode dealt with Brennan’s fictional Booth’s death doesn’t mean its him. Booth already ” died” in first episode so to do it again, with the possibility it wouldn’t stick, doubtful. If Boreanaz was ready to leave now they should have just done it then. Thursday’s episode was in reality a push to see that Brennan likes the excitement that working with Booth and her job at the Jeffersonian gives her and that her bickering with Booth is just who they are and she shouldn’t fight that. Also Booth or Brennan dying would not be a secondary story, which in this case it would because the show runners have already stated that Angela and Hodgins are the focus and something big is going to happen to them
I really do not expect Bones to do that. It’s just not at all in line with what they’ve already said will be the storyline for the fall finale. It just doesn’t fit. Could I be wrong? It certainly wouldn’t be the first time, but I really do think I am this time.
Crossed my mind, but they already did the Booth-fake death several seasons back. I have a hard time seeing them doing a repeat or reversal of that.
Sam Winchester! Oh nooooooo! But it won’t “stick”…
Last week or the week before they were told Heaven was done with them. If they die it sticks.
Yeah, but it wouldn’t stick for some reason. Really Supernatural doesn’t continue without either Jared or Jensen plus no one would expect either one of them dying to stick, so it wouldn’t be a big deal. It would be a how do they undo this deal.
This. I thought the same thing after the death comment on last week’s ep. I really enjoy the show, but I think it’s winding down, or the writers are getting bored. So the death of one of the Winchesters wouldn’t surprise me.
Supernatural is still one of the CW’s best rated shows. I don’t think it will be winding down this season. I’m sure that when it does wind down we will get a “Watch the final season of Supernatural! See how the epic story ends!” Not a surprise death mid-season.
As percysowner said, Supernatural is still one of The CW’s most-consistent shows ratings-wise, not to mention their longest-running show now, and both Jared, Jensen, and Misha have all said they’re still excited by storylines and are sticking around as long as people keep watching. I don’t think it’ll be over anytime soon. When it does end, there will be a lot of build up and press surrounding the final season because it’s been on so long. They’re not going to just throw a surprise death into the middle of the season and go, “oh, by the way, this is the final season.” The final season of Supernatural will be hyped up months leading into it.
Even though Castle show runners are crazy, I have difficulty imagining that they are that crazy. Can’t kill off Castle, given the show is named Castle. Killing off Beckett would mean the show runners have lies outright. So not likely! Could be Felicity on Arrow. It would fit the description. It could be any of a bunch of shows actually.