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    Very very good!
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    YoshiP Response - 09/15/11 Reason for item colors

    This one is continuation of what he posted yesterday (or day before) and bay posted official translation so I'll post a link to that one in a bit (looking for it)
    updated: His added comment was this one I translated today http://goo.gl/j2e7n which is a thread talking about the UI changes that was posted on lodestone topics in all languages. (this: http://goo.gl/GxhQW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    ちょっと言葉足らずでした。
    Was lacking words (on the last post)

    この仕様の最も良い点は、皆さんのプレイヤーコミュニティ内で「簡易共通言語」ができることなのです。
    MMORPGは、コンソールのスタンドアローンRPGに比べ、リアルタイム性が高く、仕様も難解で、
    長期運用となると、アイテム数は数千を越えます。
    The good thing about this feature is that within the player community this will be a "common language" (same with other games). MMORPG compared to standalone console RPG involves much more real time and the specifics are much more complicated, on top of that if it involves long term service the amount of items will go over few thousand.

    アイテムの数が多くなると、名称も長くなりがちですし、アイテム自体が成長したりすると、
    パラメータも多くなり、とても「わかりにくく」なります。
    When amount of items increase the naming will also get longer, and when item itself evolves the parameters increases and makes it much more harder to understand.

    新しくエオルゼアを訪れたプレイヤーの方は、自分のキャラクタを強くするために、
    装備を手に入れようとするわけですが、数あるアイテムの中から、
    何を装備して良いのかわかりません。
    特に推奨装備の場合には、適正かどうかも、ぱっと見わかりません。
    For new players arriving to Eorzea, to make their characters better they have to obtain equipment but from the numbers of items available they wont know what's the optimal equipment to get. With optimal equipment they wouldn't even know if that gear is best for them just by looking right away.

    ですので、皆さんのような熟練冒険者や、加入したてのLSメンバーに、
    きっとこんな質問をします。
    Therefore for players like you all in here, when they join new LS they may questions something like this.

    「どれを装備したらいいのですか?」
    「クエストで手に入れたこの武器は強いですか?」
    What should I equip?
    Is the weapon from this quest strong?


    その時に、非常に長いアイテム名を打ち込んだり、
    説明しようとしても、とても手間がかかりますし、
    初心者の方には、どうしても、難しい説明になってしまいます。
    細かいことは、あとで徐々に覚えれば良いので、
    まずはエオルゼアを楽しんで欲しいですよね。
    When that happens if the item name is long they have to type all that, or to even explain it will take some time to explain, for new players it will be explanation that might be too hard to understand, so for more detailed information they can learn as they play along and would like for them to first enjoy the world of Eorzea.

    そんな時
    So in that case

    「えーと、自分から見て緑色に見えるアイテム装備しとけば、とりあえず大丈夫だよ!
    「装備が弱くなったらグレーに変わるから、そしたら、次の装備さがすといいよー!

    Umm when looking at the gear if you equip the gear that's green it should be OK for now!
    When equipment got weaker it will change gray so you should start looking for new gear after that!

    「それを守れば、序盤は見た目で決めちゃってOK!
    If you can keep that in mind, it's ok to choose just by looks
    「アイテムの名前が青色のアイテムは、性能がいいから売ったり捨てたりしちゃダメだよ!」
    If the item name is blue it has good stuff so don't sell or trash it!

    といったように、簡単に説明してあげることができます。
    You can explain it simply like above.

    MMORPGは、プレイヤーコミュニティあってのゲームです。
    そこに「わかりやすく、短い共通言語」があるのは、とても大切だと思うのです。
    MMORPG is a game where it involves player community.
    In there I believe having short common language is very important.


    ですので、この仕様にON/OFFをつけてしまうと、共通言語にならなくなってしまいます。
    少なくともデフォルトはONでなければ、実装の意味がなくなります。
    Therefore having a ON/OFF feature to this will take away that common language, at least have the default to set it to ON or it wont have any meaning to this implementation.

    皆さんが「ファイナルファンタジー」に、愛情とプライドを持ってプレイしてくださってるのは、
    とても熱く我々開発に伝わっています。
    吉田も開発チームも、運営チームも、愛情とプライドを持って開発/運営させて頂いています。
    The dev team really understand your love and pride towards "Final Fantasy" and the dev team and myself included, and the management team also have love and pride.

    「カラフルにしてしまって、美観を損ねて欲しくない!」
    Don't want to lose the beauty of this game by making it too colorful!


    というご意見も、よくわかってはいるのですが、
    「ファイナルファンタジーのMMORPG」として、ひとりでも多くの人に「わかりやすく」「仲良く」
    プレイして頂くために、必要な仕様だと思って実装しました。
    This type of comment, I really understand, but as "Final Fantasy MMORPG" to make it more understandable by more players and for them to enjoy, have fun playing, I believe this is a feature that is required and implementing.

    実装後、上記のようなやりとりが、チャット上で行われる機会が、必ずあると思います。
    もし、そんな機会があったら、このポストを思いだしてくれると嬉しいです
    After implementation is above type of chat conversation will probably happen, if that happens if you could please remember this post would appreciate it
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    Last edited by Reinheart; 09-16-2011 at 03:25 AM.

  3. #933
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    YoshiP Response - 09/15/11 Reason for item color - pt2

    Another post by YoshiP talking about above post. (translating right now, posting to get the posting space below last one i just translated)

    Original Thread Link: http://goo.gl/aWSZF

    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RawlGiar View Post
    弱い装備は白くして
    「装備が弱くなったら色が消えて白になるから、売るなりマテリア化して次の装備を探すといいよ」
    装備不可の場合はグレーにして
    「色がグレーなのはランクが足りないか別のクラス専用だね、クラスを変えるかランク上げてみて」
    "When equipment is weak the color changes to white, so sell it or make it into a materia and look for another gear"
    or making the non-equipable gear gray
    "If the color is gray, your rank is low or it's for different class, so try and change class or gain rank"


    の方が分かりやすいかな、と思うのですが。
    慣れれば気にならなくなるのかな
    I think like above is easier to understand, but if they get used to it I guess it doesn't really matter maybe.
    はい
    パッチ1.19後に、こういった方向でフィードバック頂けると、
    とても嬉しく思います!
    Yes
    This is the kind of feedback I would like to see after patch 1.19.
    Would greatly appreciate it!


    …ただ、色は感覚ですし、個人差がどうしてもあります。
    また、他の有名MMORPGと、「ある程度」合わせた方が、
    「MMORPG市場」との言語共有が可能という側面もあるのです。
    ...however the color is just for feeling, so everyone will have different thoughts about this.
    Also doing this makes it possible to share the language (language here meaning the item coloring system) in a MMORPG market, so it's better to have it [somewhat] close to other famous MMORPG is good.


    いずれ、できるだけ多くのプレイヤーを他のMMORPGからうばいとr(ry
    …おっと、本音が
    In future would like to stea... as much players from other MMORP...
    ... oops my truth came out
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    Last edited by Reinheart; 09-16-2011 at 03:26 AM.

  4. #934
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    YoshiP Response - 09/15/11 Poem finally revealed in 1.19

    Small post by YoshiP on the moonlet earring post on the JP side.

    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    パッチ1.19で、ポエム orz も、いよいよインゲームに登場します(苦笑
    それも含めて、色々ご想像ください

    In patch 1.19, the "poem" orz will finally be in game (laugh) please also think of that when imagining (saying orz because his nickname in JP community by some is Poekichi, the poem guy)
    Poem he's referring to is something he posted way back last december (or January) about up coming changes to world of Eorzea.
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    Rep Response - 09/15/11 Food/Drink effect description planned for 1.20

    Didn't see official translation for this one but saw similar post in the past about this... but anyways...

    Regarding food and what stats they give.

    Original Thread Link: http://goo.gl/yRS2Q
    Quote Originally Posted by Foxclon View Post
    こんにちは。
    Hello,

    食事効果が飲んだり食べたりするまでわからないという点についてですが、
    早ければパッチ1.20で、食事効果をアイテムヘルプに記載することを予定しています。
    Regarding food and drink effects which currently you can't see until you drink/eat, at earliest we are planning to make it show the food effect in the item help with patch 1.20.

    フィードバックありがとうございました!
    Thanks for the feedback!
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    Last edited by Reinheart; 09-16-2011 at 03:31 AM.

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    There is another post but it's about in-game story related about Princess Edvia?? dunno spelling, has lots of in-game terms so might be wrong if JP and NA versions has different naming.

    There is also post about how many posts can be made per thread, since JP are used to 2ch which only allows up to 1000 posts per thread, just confirming it doesn't have a 1000 cap/limit.

    And 2 threads just being closed responded by rep, one which was name calling a staff within a thread and another where they made part 2 of the thread since the JP players thought the first thread was getting too long.
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    Cute baby. My second one comes in December. That is when life is really going to get hectic. I dread the day they team up against the parents.

    Congratulations
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royal View Post
    Cute baby. My second one comes in December. That is when life is really going to get hectic. I dread the day they team up against the parents.

    Congratulations
    Haha I already told my 4yr old Son only thing they can team up on is buying video games then I can help get it but I get to play it first! First son was 6 month of no sleep hell have to find out how long for this little one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinheart View Post
    カリフォルニアに住んでるオラじゃFFXIVチーム無理なんだろうな(^_^;
    でも、北米フォーラムに、吉田のポストをバリバリ英訳して、
    日米の橋渡しをして頂いてるの、いつも北米フォーラムで拝見しています。
    殆どFFXIVチーム状態だと思いますが……w

    吉田もRepチームも、北米プレイヤーもとても感謝しています。
    本当にありがとうございます
    Just posting this here so I can remember this post to smile at every time I read it lol
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