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The purpose of this thread is to continue that which we started in the HTC forums. That is to dissect current flagship Android phones and compare them to new tech hitting the market, new flagship news, smartphone news, etc.

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1. All xda forum rules apply.
2. Comparisons to other phones is ok but only with an objective and not opinionated views.
3. You can SHARE opinions but think of how you state it as to not impose your opinion.
4. If you feel something is worthy of the true Mega Info Thread PM the thread OP. We might miss it.
5. Rom or Kernel links are ok for updates. If you know how include the changelog.
6. This isn't necessarily a troubleshooting thread though we can try to help. Those type of things belong in your ROM/kernel thread.
7. This is not a cry babies thread, bashing, hatred or a futile expression of frustration should be kept elsewhere

If there´s any discussion going too much off-topic or to aggressive, I will lock down the thread temporarily to get everyone calm down and will get a mod into this.

Notable old links can be found in second post below

Have fun !
 
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Notable Posts

Below are links to notable topics, threads and posts

Current focus:

Newer Gcam port for HTC devices (5.2.022)

Fully working Google camera port with Pixel 2 HDR+, Portrait front and rear, motion pictures (tested u11 and u11+)

HTC U11 Plus official renders

HTC U11 Reviews Collection

Android Central: What color HTC U11 should you buy: Black, blue, silver, white or red?

HTC 10 - Nougat OTA -HTC unleashes s820 full performance, modding no longer required, presets added to camera pro mode

HTC 10 - summary about the Snapdragon 820 performance cripple aka. "powerbotics" and how to unleash it

HTC camera wars - 10 vs M9S vs M09 - HDR vs RAW

HTC 10 - first camera tests - shade (1.30 + HTC camera updates)

HTC 10 - first camera tests (1.30 + HTC camera updates)

HTC 10 second day feedback

HTC 10 first day feedback

HTC 10 - Reviews' Collective

HTC 10 / One M10 / Perfume 3D Renders, featured in Phonearena,[URL="http://www.concept-phones.com/htc/htc-10-perfume-set-renders-courtesy-leosidehamdir/"] concept-phones[/URL], HTC source

HTC One M9s - GameBench Series -Riptide GP2 (1.10.709.2)

HTC One M9s: more camera samples (imx214, 1.12um, OIS, F2.0)

HTC One M9s: investigating HTC's latest camera improvements as featured on the A9, X9 and M9s (imx214, 1.12um, OIS, F2.0)

HTC One M10 (codename: Perfume) mock up render,featured in Pocketlint, PhoneArena, Android Community, Pocket Now and XDA Portal

One M9 versus OnePlus 2 versus Nexus 6P, internal Snapdragon 810 thermal release configuration comparison

HTC One M9 camera - HW Luma Denoise Mod - Base 2.10.401.1, Dramatically increases detail

HTC One M9 screen - calibration values using ElementalX Kernel and EX kernel manager

HTC One M9 camera - switch from HW denoise to SW via build.prop

HTC One M9 Information Collective Post

HTC One M9 - software 2.10.401.1, camera samples

Vegetableb HTC M9 VS Galaxy S6, an end user Review

Vegetaleb Honest Review of the HTC M9 coming from the SGS6

HTC One M9 review coming from the One X by aliHTCDHD

HTC One M9 - GameBench Series -Godfire (1.32.401.17)

HTC One M9 - GameBench Series - Mortal Kombat X (1.32.401.17)

HTC One M9 - GameBench Series - Asphalt 8 (1.32.401.17)

Feedback on the M9 gaming experience and thermals plus recommendations

1.40 point and shoot HDR samples

HTC One M9 - Distance Image Quality tests - Large 20MP, 1.32.x vs 1.40.x

HTC One M9 sharpness setting comparison & recommendations - updated camera code, base 1.40.x

HTC One M9, OTA camera improvements, proper 1:1 comparison

1.36.709.3 vs 1.40.709.4 camera improvements

How long it takes to process an M9 RAW photo using Photoshop Express

Using M9 RAW mode to create HDR like results and recommended camera settings

HTC One M9 - Image Quality tests - Medium 16MP, JPG vs sharpness

HTC One M9 - Distance Image Quality tests, RAW vs JPG vs sharpness

HTC camera app RAW mode review

Custom denoise versus HTC's camera denoise

HTC One M9 Low Light - Camera Caps: it does great in low light, just bring it under control

HTC One M9 Camera Powers - Part I

Photo samples with recommended M9 Camera tweaks

Further assessment of the M9 sharpness algorithm and conclusions

HTC One M9 / SGS6 / iPhone 6 - 1:1 comparison

HTC One M9 (codename: Hima) failed mockup render

Google Nexus 9 by HTC Collective post

HTC One 2014 (M8) Camera Collective post

HTC One 2014 (M8) Information Collective Post

HTC One 2014 (M8) Official Product Page Google Play Edition

HTC One 2014 (M8) pre-release mockup

HTC One 2014 (E8) polycarbonate version of the M8

Previous Mega and Gaming performance threads

HTC One (M7) Mega Information Thread

HTC One Gaming Performance Thread

HTC One X Mega Information Thread

HTC One X Gaming Performance Thread

Other related posts

HTC One (M7) UltraPixel samples and tests compilation

HTC One M7 Camera: Sharpness control

4MP Ultrapixel versus Sony's 13MP and impressive Ultrapixel samples (collective post I)

4MP Ultrapixel versus the world, impressive per pixel detail (collective post II)

HTC One, 3D Games Performance Report Part III (Asphalt 7, Real Racing 3, Fast and Furious 6)

HTC One, 3D Games Performance Report Part II (Dead Trigger, Modern Combat 4, Need for Speed Most Wanted)

HTC One, 3D Games Performance Report Part I (Beach Buggy Blitz, Temple Run 2, Shadowgun Deadzone)

HTC One, 3D Games Performance Report, Asphalt 8

HTC Desire HD Camera guide
 
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Awesome, let's hope this works

so let's begin shall we

did anyone notice the new Here's To change page on the HTC website?

helps explain what the new ad campaign all about

---------- Post added at 01:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:40 PM ----------

meanwhile the HTC One X is having an Epic day, it just got updated to the full fledged Sense 5

ARHD Blog: HTC One X with Android 4.2.2 & HTC Sense 5.0 update
HTC One X is one of the very few (if not the only one) devices from HTC which reached 4.xx.xxx.x software version (4.18.491.2). This only proves how great this device still is and how many users are still actively using it.

HTCSource: HTC One X Android 4.2.2 update with Sense 5 commences rollout in Europe
Roughly a year and a half after the HTC One X showed up in retail stores, the handset in now receiving its second major Android update. The HTC One X’s Android 4.2.2 update (version 4.18.401.2) weighs in at roughly 380 MB. The update delivery all the usual Android 4.2.2 features from Google and and most of the Sense 5 feature’s from the HTC One. HTC one X owners will be able to enjoy the new flat UI, BlinkFeed, new gallery with Video Highlights, updated music app with visualizations and lyric sync along with dozens of other improvements to HTC’s software.
 
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HTC One Max to feature fingerprint reader? (and dock charger?)
A leaked snap of the haughty HTC One Max points to a huge frame and a rear-placed fingerprint reader.

As you can see the HTC One Max makes the One look small and the Mini, well, it lives up to its name. But it's not the rumoured 5.9 inch screen or Snapdragon 800 processor (capable of outputting 4K) that has us excited – it's the fingerprint scanner. You see that black square under the camera, right where you finger would naturally sit? That's it, if rumours are accurate.

Of course a black square would be easy to edit in as a fake. But with Pantech announcing its smartphone with fingerprint reading tech just last week we're not writing this one off. Especially if HTC loses Beats, as it appears to be doing, and needs a new unique point to help sell its smartphones.

Expect an official unveil of the HTC One at IFA next month.

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source: http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/4542/53217/1/
 
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HTC One mini coming to AT&T August 23rd for $100 on contract
If you've been hoping to snag an HTC One mini since we first laid our eyes (and hands) upon the 4.3-inch device, now's your chance to do it... provided you're an AT&T customer or have no qualms with making the switch. You'll be able to grab the One mini starting next week, and at $100, it's certainly set at a mid-tier price. Press release and video can be found below the break.

WSJ: Beats Electronics looking to end HTC partnership
Whatever you feel about Beats' audio, you can't help but think that the company's partnership with HTC hasn't really worked out. The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Dr. Dre and Co. are planning to buy back the phone maker's remaining 25 percent stake in the business -- just a year after HTC reduced its stake by half. Either way, we're hoping that this potential separation helps HTC get back to winning ways and frees up Dr. Dre to resuming prescribing those pills he's now so fond of.
 
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both HTC thread but with completely different intentions

one more thing, this is the off topic area isn't it? ;)

I have a feeling your thread might stick around but, off topic doesn't mean you can just make any thread you want. If a thread is made, then a duplicate is made, the duplicate typically gets locked, and the mod will point you to the original thread. Is this thread considered a duplicate of the HTC hangout thread? Only a mod can decide that.

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I have a feeling your thread might stick around but, off topic doesn't mean you can just make any thread you want. If a thread is made, then a duplicate is made, the duplicate typically gets locked, and the mod will point you to the original thread. Is this thread considered a duplicate of the HTC hangout thread? Only a mod can decide that.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 10.1! :D

It is not my thread, it's @DeSaint2's idea

and no i do not agree, have a look at that thread its not a duplicate

Just because it has an HTC in the title doesn't make it a duplicate
 
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I have a feeling your thread might stick around but, off topic doesn't mean you can just make any thread you want. If a thread is made, then a duplicate is made, the duplicate typically gets locked, and the mod will point you to the original thread. Is this thread considered a duplicate of the HTC hangout thread? Only a mod can decide that.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 10.1! :D

While I understand what you are saying, the purpose of this thread is outlined very clearly. This is not a "hangout", it is an HTC tech thread. We are specifically dissecting the technology within HTC flagship devices. Discussing the possibilities of of new tech and what it could do to change the smartphone world and such.

A little off topic is allowed for other things such as gaming console tech because a lot of people that were in the old thread in the One forum are big gamers and use their device as such. So it allows comparisons and to see just how close mobile gaming comes to console gaming.

If the mod feels this is a duplicate of the other thread then we shall discuss it at that point. That thread also isn't very active to begin with. It also would not be able to serve the purpose of what we are trying to build here.

P.s. I am trying to relay this in a way that does not come across as crass or in a rude manner. Thank you for your input.

Sent from my HTC One using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
 

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While I understand what you are saying, the purpose of this thread is outlined very clearly. This is not a "hangout", it is an HTC tech thread. We are specifically dissecting the technology within HTC flagship devices. Discussing the possibilities of of new tech and what it could do to change the smartphone world and such.

A little off topic is allowed for other things such as gaming console tech because a lot of people that were in the old thread in the One forum are big gamers and use their device as such. So it allows comparisons and to see just how close mobile gaming comes to console gaming.

If the mod feels this is a duplicate of the other thread then we shall discuss it at that point. That thread also isn't very active to begin with. It also would not be able to serve the purpose of what we are trying to build here.

P.s. I am trying to relay this in a way that does not come across as crass or in a rude manner. Thank you for your input.

Sent from my HTC One using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

You can discuss technology there also. It's open for anything HTC. If there's two threads for every single phone manufacturer, this place will get filled up device threads, which is not the point of Off Topic.
 

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First of all, please put the handbags down, ladies. It's alright dear, it's just a thread.

Secondly, it's not a duplicate as the other is an OT thread and this is to discuss more technical matters. So, with that in mind, it's not OT material and should be in General, which is where I'll place it now :)
 

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First of all, please put the handbags down, ladies. It's alright dear, it's just a thread.

Secondly, it's not a duplicate as the other is an OT thread and this is to discuss more technical matters. So, with that in mind, it's not OT material and should be in General, which is where I'll place it now :)

Thank you, Archer. We were told that this type of thread belonged in Off Topic so i apologize for the misplacement of this thread.
 
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Thank you, Archer. We were told that this type of thread belonged in Off Topic so i apologize for the misplacement of this thread.

Not a problem. It's more suited here since you're actually talking about phones. OT is for talking about ponies and how to make girls like you :p
 

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    update 11/4/2016: the render are extremely close, official HTC 3D renders

    HTC 10 / One M10 / Perfume 3D Renders - dual tone metallic colors (original date 16/3/2016)

    click for bigger size

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    original model was provided by temp64GTX and I have corrected it overall, its now accurate from all sides, in the upcoming days ill post more colors and other angles

    these are the changes on top of the original turbosquid model:

    - front chamfer higher and less thick
    - rear chamfer bigger
    - camera location
    - nav buttons size and location
    - screen size
    - bezel
    - slimmer side
    - added black protective frame around the screen
    - raised 2.5d glass
    - removed the top right hole, its not hole, its a strip
    - added the right tray

    corrections are based on my my latest measurements
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    here we go, after a week of hell, this finally landed here today (TW 32GB)

    photos taken by the M9S:

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    my 10 rave fitbag arrives on Tuesday but my trusty old M8 one works as well

    I need to express my thanks for @imOJ for all the trouble he went through to help me get this, this guy rocks and i love Dubai!

    phenomenal build quality, this must be the first time i've unboxed an HTC flagships with zero QC quirks, despite all the beauty shots and my work on the 3D render it still hit me, the buttons are simply insane like an expensive piece of machinery, the chamfer makes the phone feels so slim and the weight is the same for M8 / M9 carriers, the grey and the black 2.5D glass combo is simple drool inducing, those getting the silver white are making a huge mistake, there are no plastics to be seen and even the plastic patch on top is awesome

    the box looks the same as the M9 from the outside but the inside is fancier, soft coated and much better organized, all the included stuff QC 3.0 charger, earbuds and Type-C cable feels much fancier than previous devices, by the time you finish unboxing one conclusion is clear, this is new chapter for HTC

    the camera out of box is nothing like we've seen lately so i've skipped testing it and installing 1.30 before i touch it

    the screen is on the surface and anyone thinking otherwise is lying to himself, the screen looks pinkish out of box for few reasons: auto brightness and the vivid mode, i have spent half an hour testing various settings, angles and doing comparisons which i will show you tomorrow but for now: I have strong evidence that this a matter of glue, actually its right there in @jmitr photos ;)

    once you raise the brightness to full and change your settings the screen will impress, i agree with David Ruddock, Vivid mode sucks! it's almost disgusting so i have switched to sRGB mode which is gorgeous and the temp slider to full cold, never seen such good whites, even with sRGB it's still greatly saturated vs M9, in short with sRGB this is extremely close to the iPhone, the coolest bit? using it at full brightness with auto disabled doesnt warm the screen at all (suggesting that the screen brightness is capped with the real full reserved for the sun)

    ghosting...sadly its true, its a regression from the M9 but hey i've spent the year fighting with everyone here who refused to believe that the M9 screen is much better versus the M8 in terms of smoothness feel ie: refresh rate, so if you worship the M8 screen you will have no problem as the 10 is better than the M8 just not as good as the M9 in terms of ghosting

    speakers: OMG, just ignore all the non sense you've read, its LOUD, louder than the M9 and the sound is much crisper, its just not dimensional like the M9 but its clearer and louder from every angle, finally music mode makes the difference, it sounds like stereo, the default theatre mode is inferior to the M9, we have yet another incident of reviewers being too lazy to switch a stupid setting

    more tomorrow
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    I have decided to show you this, my mockup of the M10, because i don't want to give Evan the pleasure of spoiling the M10 for us, like he did with that God awful washed out photo he has released, here is my render of the M10 which i had made earlier but now corrected to measurements after Evan's front reveal, this is made from all the insider information i have of the M10

    note: this mockup does not show the hidden thing on the front ;)

    you can really understand the codename now, this is the cleanest most symmetrical phone HTC ever made, it contains the essence of HTC but fulfils everything the press has been asking for
    - no logo bar
    - improved screen to body ratio hence its expect to have the same size as M9 with bigger screen, 5.2"
    - AOSP like UX
    - heavy loaded camera hardware

    update v2: refined render with corrected rear camera size, fingerprint shape and clearer bezel
    update v3: fractionally wider in order to perfectly fit the M9+ 5.2" screen proportions and every sensor on the front including the speaker was readjusted to match the evleak photo, brighter colors, fixed broken front USB center on v2
    update v4: adjusted fingerprint shape based on evidence of alternate prototype, so it could be either v3 or v4 as two prototypes exist
    update v5: bigger rear camera and flash/IR, antenna's location corrected based on latest leak, FP scanner, speaker, front camera and proximity corrected using the white photo
    update v5a with Sense 8 mock-up: trying to show case how the M10 looks with black wallpaper thanks to Amoled and Sense 8 colors, Desire 825 capacitive buttons plus color tweaks here and there for better looks
    update v6a: added the back chamfer matching the silver leak, hence rear camera combo gets smaller just a bit and the side tapers approach M9
    update v7a: back chamfer is now more solid
    update v8: added real Sense 8 icons

    update 4/3/2016: the official M10 render was leaked, comparison with my mock-ups over here

    My pre-leak mock-up vs official leaked render by evleaks

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    HTC One M10 - codename Perfume mock up renders

    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v8 with Sense 8 mock-up
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v7a with Sense 8 mock-up
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v7a
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v6a with Sense 8 mock-up
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v6a
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v5a with Sense 8 mock-up
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v5a
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v5b
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v4
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v3
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v2
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v1
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    A9/Aero - official render
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    M9/Hima - official render
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    M10's bezel improvements vs the A9 (sense screenshot from A9)
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    and this cutout to give you an idea of the back curvature and edges
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    here we can see the metallic bumper accessory, how v5 was corrected and comparison between A9/M9/M10
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    HTC 10 / One M10 / Perfume 3D Renders - Black





    click for bigger size

    original model was provided by temp64GTX and I have corrected it overall, its now accurate from all sides, in the upcoming days ill post more colors and other angles

    these are the changes on top of the original turbosquid model:

    - front chamfer higher and less thick
    - rear chamfer bigger
    - camera location
    - nav buttons size and location
    - screen size
    - bezel
    - slimmer side
    - added black protective frame around the screen
    - raised 2.5d glass
    - removed the top right hole, its not hole, its a strip
    - added the right tray

    corrections are based on my my latest measurements
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    Well guys, it's a sad day. For the first time since I started using Android, I won't be buying the HTC flagship. It's sad because I really love HTC phones, and I got my start as a developer on HTC phones. But I think it's time to move on. My sincere thanks to all the HTC community here for supporting my kernels and apps over the years. I hope people aren't let down by me not getting the U12. I'll continue to support my kernels for the 10 and U11.

    Why am I not getting the U12? The honest answer is not enough users. I spend several thousand dollars per year on phones, supported by the revenues from my apps. It's pretty much a guarantee that I will lose money on the U12. I'm already really busy with more popular devices, so I can't justify spending another $1100 on a device that will have few users and require a lot of effort to maintain. HTC devices are a huge hassle to support compared to Pixel and OnePlus and even Moto. HTC still sends their kernel sources as a blob with no commit history, and they are routinely several months late in releasing them. Plus there are endless variants and weird HTC-specific quirks to deal with.

    Back in the day, HTC was definitely the best. Phones like the One S and m7 really stood above the competition. Looking back, it was the m9 that killed HTC. It was really a dud. The brilliance of the HTC 10 couldn't make up for it and although the U11 was a fine phone, I just never enjoyed it as much as my other current phones, which have really progressed in the last couple years.